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I checked out the quality of others over several dealerships, and the water marks/spotting was evident on all of them.
Damn, if only I knew the door rubbers are getting water stained... Every 2-3 moths I have to use some magic Meguiar juice to wipe them, the maintenance of these things is simply ridiculous! I should have got a Golf GTI or R, waste gate turbo rattle or even DSG induced thrills are nothing compared to water stains on door rubber
You said nothing about how the water stained thing drives though. This s not a detailing thread after all.
Damn, if only I knew the door rubbers are getting water stained... Every 2-3 moths I have to use some magic Meguiar juice to wipe them, the maintenance of these things is simply ridiculous! I should have got a Golf GTI or R, waste gate turbo rattle or even DSG induced thrills are nothing compared to water stains on door rubber
You said nothing about how the water stained thing drives though. This s not a detailing thread after all.
Did you read the bit about the fact that there was a pool of water (from being parked out the back of the dealership) in the demo Clio ?
It lacked sufficient grunt/torque. OK if you are driving on level ground but it struggled to get above 90km/hr on the drive up Mt White on the OPH (a Golf GTI does a 100km/hr with ease). Handling was superb but that was about it. Not my cup of tea. Wack a snail into it (to up the torque) and I'd probably like it better. But that still doesn't solve the poor resale of these things.
Resale value of the low volume selling niche euro-brands are generally in the same boat imo. Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Renault, Peugeot, Volvo, and Saab. There’s a limited market for these types of vehicles when new, which in turn creates a limited second hand buyers market, unlike the cheaper versions of the Audi, BMW and Mercedes that sell in much greater numbers new & used.
Renaults do not sell in great numbers in this country and the RS versions of the Clio and Megane create the impression that Renault is relying more on its two halo RS models. The basic bread & butter Megane, unlike the Golf, do not sell in any meaningful numbers in country. Having said that, Golf GTI is ubiquitous which creates a lot more competition when it comes time to sell on the second hand market. If you have the right mix of options & colour, luck may be on your side.
On another issue, Ray still hasn’t received his build date/VIN for his Golf R which is scheduled to arrive on 1st June 2011. He’s been told to expect changes on his model, which may be a MY12 build. Delivery should be around August 2011 with any luck. Some say that DCC and Dynaudio will be shelved on the MY12 (rumour only atm). Should it be the case that DCC is no longer available on the upgraded MY12 Golf R, Ray may cull his order. He’s not fussed about losing Dynaudio, but DCC makes part of the compelling case for an upgrade from the R32 to the Golf R. I’ve suggested that perhaps he consider the next generation Audi S3, which should only be just around the corner.
The release of the next generation Mark 7 based Audi A3 has been delayed by 6-9 months. It should’ve gone on sale about now in Europe and start of 2012 for Australia. I’m inclined to think that if VW cannot keep pace with current orders of the Golf R, they may have limited chance of creating enough stock for dealers to see out a delayed Mark 7 Golf R/Audi S3 release some time in the future. This may force both Audi and VW to bring forward the Mark 7 S3/Golf R releases. I can’t see VAG building the Mark 6 alongside the Mark 7 ... economies of scale and production facilities would make a strong case for not doing so. In a nutshell, the Audi A3/MK7 Golf may have been delayed, but perhaps not the Mark 7 version Audi S3/GTI/R. Ray disagrees in that you will not see the Mark 7 Golf R until at least 2014. I reckon it may be sooner than that. Audi are already releasing images of the new Mark 7 based Audi A3 sedan.
After struggling to sell a S3 for about 5 months, and seeing friends with GTI's and R32's sell pretty quick, I know which I would prefer to be selling...
Audi S3. Sold
Golf R. Sold
Citroen DS3 Dsport. Sold
2016 Skoda Octavia RS Wagon.
Golf GTI is ubiquitous which creates a lot more competition when it comes time to sell on the second hand market. If you have the right mix of options & colour, luck may be on your side.
Satnav, Xennon's & leather have resale appeal I found when I was poking around.
1. The wheels look better.
2. Cheaper running costs of a FWD and AWD (having had past experience with AWD Subaru which nearly sent me bankrupt)
3. I prefer the 2 red stripes on the grill
Current ride: 2014 Range Rover Evoque 5 Door TD4 Pure | 9 Spd Auto | Fuji White | Black Leather | 19 inch 'Dynamic' Wheels
Previous rides: MY11.5 Golf GTI 5 door | DSG | Candy White | 18' Detriots | Bluetooth | K&N Air Filter | Dancing Dials (Oh Yeah!)
| 1989 Porsche 944S2 Coupe| Guards Red| Leather| Sunroof| LSD
1. The wheels look better.
2. Cheaper running costs of a FWD and AWD (having had past experience with AWD Subaru which nearly sent me bankrupt)
3. I prefer the 2 red stripes on the grill
Yep I will put them in the "things I must consider begore choosing a car" list in the future.. pure emotion .. I love it
Current Ride: MY 16 Daytona Pearl Grey Audi S3- Performance Pack 1, Sunroof and Driver assist
True SilvrFoxX - although if money were no object (but is it ever????), I would have a sprint blue Audi S3 sportback S Tronic in my driveway! Instead, the GTI will suffice for now
Current ride: 2014 Range Rover Evoque 5 Door TD4 Pure | 9 Spd Auto | Fuji White | Black Leather | 19 inch 'Dynamic' Wheels
Previous rides: MY11.5 Golf GTI 5 door | DSG | Candy White | 18' Detriots | Bluetooth | K&N Air Filter | Dancing Dials (Oh Yeah!)
| 1989 Porsche 944S2 Coupe| Guards Red| Leather| Sunroof| LSD
True SilvrFoxX - although if money were no object (but is it ever????), I would have a sprint blue Audi S3 sportback S Tronic in my driveway! Instead, the GTI will suffice for now
So let me get this straight, if money was no object, you'd get a GOLF R with an AUDI badge? Nice!
Having said that, Golf GTI is ubiquitous which creates a lot more competition when it comes time to sell on the second hand market. If you have the right mix of options & colour, luck may be on your side.
Completely disagree with this comment. My sister just sold her Corolla to buy a new Polo, and I must say I have never seen so much interest generated in one car being sold privately. It was incredible. 2004 model, listed for $11K - received about 3 calls a day for 3 weeks, and sold no probs.
Obviously, there are a TON of Corollas on the market and the competition was not issue cause the car is a good car and sought after.
The GTI, having about as amazing rep as you can get for a "sports" hatch, low relative cost of insurance and fuel, should have no such problems selling to an enthusiast market.
The analysis of the 2nd hand car market ignores the rule of thumb that if a car sold strongly when new to private buyers that there will be a big market of 2nd hand buyers for it. The "competition" in the market works both ways, for buyers and sellers.
The analysis of the 2nd hand car market ignores the rule of thumb that if a car sold strongly when new to private buyers that there will be a big market of 2nd hand buyers for it. The "competition" in the market works both ways, for buyers and sellers.
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