Golf R -v- Golf GTI

[Fab_R]

XR5, if the ST is the updated version I can't see much has changed.. the R and GTI are a much more enjoyable experience

And much prettier than the current generation Focus which I maintain is an ugly POS!


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[sabloke]

the Focus RS has its flaws but still is 10X more exciting than any other German hot hatch

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[SilvrFoxX]

I don't think anyone is talking about the RS, only the ST and XR5

[andrew7]

GTD or R?

G'day All

Picked up my long awaited GTI last week and loving it. Lo and behold my +1 has been headhunted into a new job meaning she gives up her company car but can buy a new one ($ increase more than worth it). She will be doing some K's in her commute so thoughts turn to economy and performance- cue GTD. However, the GTI gets pretty good mileage particularly with mainly highway driving and a fuel card with my novated lease (she will train it 1-2days a week as well). So, do I give her my GTI and trade myself up to an R?! I went back and forwards to moving to an R whilst waiting for my GTI so this could be the perfect win-win situation Thoughts/comments appreciated.

[team_v]

I would go the GTD for something different.

The GTI is more than capable enough for day to day use.

[mfl]

You already have the sensible GTI for everyday use, get the R

[Ryan41]

The GTI is good.. the R is in another Leauge! ... they are becoming harder to find too!

[GTD Dubber]

I enjoy my GTD. Great economy and grunt. Not in the GTI or R league for that though. It really is a personnel choice I think. I guess you need to think of economy, cost, long term, would you/wife enjoy driving a diesel compared to the GTI/R?

[andrew7]

Thanks all. I know of a cancelled R order with some goodies that I might be able to jump on, could be pretty tempting. Flipside is If I can find a GTD before 30 June, with corporate plus disc and free on roads/EOFY sale can get one at a great price. Question is then, is the R worth 15-20k more?

[SilvrFoxX]

Question is then, is the R worth 15-20k more?

For the love of god......

[andrew7]

Clearly yes SF

I know, I know how longs a piece of string....

[SilvrFoxX]

No... here have the last 2 years of this conversation

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/golf-r-v-golf-gti-45833.html

Should be 3 hours of your life you will never get back

[GTD Dubber]

Haha.

[WhiteJames]

Handling: Oversteer & Understeer

Okay ... so we know that the Golf R exhibits greater on the limit understeer than Golf GTI. The Sirocco R understeers even less than the Golf GTI and is more composed and planted around the track and slalom. The Golf R more stable during emergency manouvres due to improved front to rear weight balance. Here's a video showing how the already impressive Sirocco R compares with the Toyota FT86 ... in addition to the Mazda MX-5 and BMW 120i Coupe. The German cars do carry greater amount of understeer ... perhaps a function of high speed autobahn tuning. The Volkswagen Driver Training Evolution Course had participants driving emergency manouvres up to speeds of 100kph for a time, with a number of drivers having half spins in the Sirocco R with less weight in the rear end. Highlights importance of good suspension tuning, both from factory and aftermarket if there's a desire to do so for local AUS conditions.

See video:

Toyota GT 86 V/S BMW 120i, Mazda Roadster, VW Scirocco [OFFICIAL VIDEO] - YouTube

Cheers.
WJ

[Dan_3MPS]

I first posted to this thread maybe 2 years or so ago when I was looking to get into a Golf, 7 months ago I grabbed a GTI 5 door with DSG and Detroits with all drive aways paid for, so $42kish

On top of purchase price I've spent about $2.5k on mods so far, maybe that much again to come over a similar time period.

Overall I'm pretty happy with the GTI. Golf R would have been awesome but in the end I couldn't afford the upfront cost. If I had the extra money when I was buying I dare say I would have gone the R.

But I still would have spent the same amount of money on mods though!

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