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Is the stock MK6 GTI quicker than 6.9s 0-100(DSG)??

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  • #16
    Originally posted by logger View Post
    xblode I agree - Launch Control cannot do it any good. They have left it off the DSG7 because it is fitted to lower torqued cars, but also so the clutches last the "life" of the car.
    In regard the 6.9sec - my lowly 118TSI DSG7 can do that
    Details at APR ECU Upgrade MK6 Golf Also had it up to 215 on the dial which isn't bad for 1.4 litres. So I would hope a GTI could beat that easily.
    I've seen 220 (just) - stock 118TSI. I'd imagine with the APR tune you'd go higher, given enough tarmac. As for 0-100, it's always felt faster than the quoted 8secs, but I haven't timed it. Do you know what yours did prior to putting in APR?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by cwcarruthers View Post
      I've seen 220 (just) - stock 118TSI. I'd imagine with the APR tune you'd go higher, given enough tarmac. As for 0-100, it's always felt faster than the quoted 8secs, but I haven't timed it. Do you know what yours did prior to putting in APR?
      220 - Good effort, would have taken a while to wind up to that I imagine. On mine it took a full 8 seconds longer to get from 141kph to 192kph without APR1. See Speed runs compared.

      7.6 Stock is what I got so a little under 8.0.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Mk6 GTI View Post
        .............And i think that the US version still has the mk5 engine?? :|
        Well, sort of..... VW US put the new EA888 engine (cam chains) into their Mk V GTI ages ago, so they have had the "new" engine for quite a while. So yes, their Mk 6 has the same engine as their later Mk Vs, but it is the same engine as we get in Oz in the Mk 6.

        Note that the Golf R and Audi S3 still get the old (cam belt) engine (ie the same as in the Mk V Pirelli and UK Edition 30 models). I don't know when VW will get around to doing a hi-po version of the EA888 engine. From what I read it has more tuning potential than the old engine, so I don't know why they haven't doen it yet (maybe there is a problem that they haven't solved yet ? ).
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        • #19
          Originally posted by gregozedobe View Post
          Well, sort of..... VW US put the new EA888 engine (cam chains) into their Mk V GTI ages ago, so they have had the "new" engine for quite a while. So yes, their Mk 6 has the same engine as their later Mk Vs, but it is the same engine as we get in Oz in the Mk 6.

          Note that the Golf R and Audi S3 still get the old (cam belt) engine (ie the same as in the Mk V Pirelli and UK Edition 30 models). I don't know when VW will get around to doing a hi-po version of the EA888 engine. From what I read it has more tuning potential than the old engine, so I don't know why they haven't doen it yet (maybe there is a problem that they haven't solved yet ? ).
          ohh ok that makes sense.. though there GTI only gets 200hp like our versionof the MK5, thats what lead me to beleive it was the old engine..

          But yeah theyare claiming 6.3! If thats the case then fantastic!! hehe
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          • #20


            0-100 km/h in 6.2s
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            • #21
              What also needs to be remembered is that speed at indicated 100kph is rarely 100kph. So IMO the only accurate way to determine 0-100 is by GPS or some sort of accelerometer.

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              • #22
                Actually - that's a very good point. So any youtube videos claiming '0 to 100 times' are really only 0 to 93km.

                Car magazines should hopefully be using proper laser equipment to test these times....

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                • #23
                  Hadn't thought of that but it is a bloody good point.

                  Would certainly explain the 6.2/3 times on YouTube.
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                  • #24
                    Never thought about that.. Very good point!
                    I would love if somebody tested it with the right gear.. Very curious!
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Mk6 GTI View Post
                      Never thought about that.. Very good point!
                      I would love if somebody tested it with the right gear.. Very curious!
                      Motor magazine managed 6.52 to 100, and 14.58 for the quarter (they use a vbox to do their acceleration testing). These times were for a 5 door with DSG, ACC and 17s; they didn't specify if launch control was used, but by omission I presume not. Out-accelerated the 3 MPS it was up against, despite a 35kw deficit.

                      The GTI is no slouch!
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                      • #26
                        Wheels Times

                        WHEELS January 2010 issue
                        0-100 7.16 and 15.02 quarter for GTI

                        6.9 and 14.77 for # MPS

                        They add "These are the quickest times we have achieved in a GTI, by only 0.1sec to the metric ton, but fully ).4 sec over 400metres."

                        Comments were against their best in a Mk V GTI
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Highlander View Post
                          WHEELS January 2010 issue
                          0-100 7.16 and 15.02 quarter for GTI

                          6.9 and 14.77 for # MPS

                          They add "These are the quickest times we have achieved in a GTI, by only 0.1sec to the metric ton, but fully ).4 sec over 400metres."

                          Comments were against their best in a Mk V GTI
                          Was it a DSG??
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                          • #28
                            DSG or Manual

                            Manual in wheels test so 6.9 probably looks achievable
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                            • #29
                              These were my results back from November - it's a manual transmission, but a good benchmark.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Highlander View Post
                                WHEELS January 2010 issue
                                0-100 7.16 and 15.02 quarter for GTI
                                The manual definitely sounds slower (harder to launch, slower shifts) than the DSG based on the times I've seen quoted, and descriptions from drivers.

                                Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
                                These were my results back from November - it's a manual transmission, but a good benchmark...
                                Guy's comments back up the assessment that a manual is harder to launch.

                                BTW Guy, those times you quote were achieved in very hot conditions; presumably a nice cool day (say sub-20 degrees C) would yield much better times, all else being equal?
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