Is the stock MK6 GTI quicker than 6.9s 0-100(DSG)??

[Mk6 GTI]

Hi Guys,

Im really curious as to what time you can really get in a stock DSG MK6 GTI??

Some are claiming 6.2 0-100. Is VW being conservative with 6.9? If so why not state 6.2??

Cheers!

[scheps]

Dont think so, you just cant launch properly with FWD. Its quite hard to get a FWD to be 6 or less on the 0-100.

[Corey_R]

Manufacturers understate 0 to 100 times and KW etc all the time. To have the car in different insurance groups, or to protect the market position of another car in their line up etc.

However, I don't think that the stock GTI could do 0 to 100 in 6.2.

6.2 is what Oettinger claim for their Stage I tune which is 184kw and 360nm. An aftermarket company surely has no reason to understate power.

And fyi - you can get GTI's in the 5 second range with Stage II+ / III

[WhiteJames]

New Car Magazine stated that they can achieve 6.3 secs 0-100kph.
Volkswagen test times with 200kg on board and achieve 6.9sec.
Other Aus motoring mags are achieving around 6.6 secs with DSG.
Still reckon the DSG is a few tenths faster than the manual version, having driven both.

Cheers.
WJ

[MurphyTheElf]

New Car Magazine stated that they can achieve 6.3 secs 0-100kph.
Volkswagen test times with 200kg on board and achieve 6.9sec.
Other Aus motoring mags are achieving around 6.6 secs with DSG.
Still reckon the DSG is a few tenths faster than the manual version, having driven both.

Cheers.
WJ

With the DSG, did you tap the accelerator to overcome the pause, or does it still launch more effectively than the manual? The pause does irk me somewhat, and I dream of a manual in certain situations, like pulling out of a side road into traffic.

[Doug VeeDub]

I reckon mine is a bit quicker than 6.9. Feels quite a bit quicker than my previous Liberty GT Spec B which was also supposed to do 6.9s. My mate has a new R36 DSG (5.8s to 100). We lined up side by side both using the launch program. He launched harder being AWD but I stayed with him all the way to illegal speeds.

I have a Performance Box that I use for lap timing in my race car. It uses GPS to time 0-100 (and lots of other stuff). I'll use this to time the GTi to 100 and then I'll redo it after APR Stage 1 ECU remap to see what the reality is. I'll post up the results soon. We'll also do the R36 - I reckon I will be mid 6s pre APR and R36 will be low 6s.

[Mk6 GTI]

I reckon mine is a bit quicker than 6.9. Feels quite a bit quicker than my previous Liberty GT Spec B which was also supposed to do 6.9s. My mate has a new R36 DSG (5.8s to 100). We lined up side by side both using the launch program. He launched harder being AWD but I stayed with him all the way to illegal speeds.

I have a Performance Box that I use for lap timing in my race car. It uses GPS to time 0-100 (and lots of other stuff). I'll use this to time the GTi to 100 and then I'll redo it after APR Stage 1 ECU remap to see what the reality is. I'll post up the results soon. We'll also do the R36 - I reckon I will be mid 6s pre APR and R36 will be low 6s.

Hey Doug, would be really interested to see your results! Cheers!

[guest12345]

i thought the "claimed" times are usually faster than what it really is... i haven't heard many manufactorers underestimate their speed, especially for a sporty car.

[xblode]

i thought the "claimed" times are usually faster than what it really is... i haven't heard many manufactorers underestimate their speed, especially for a sporty car.

I'm pretty sure most of them underestimate their specs. Speed and Power included. I know Porsche do. It's pretty bad for reps if their cars are slower than they claim.

I also reckon the GTI is faster than 6.9 too, even without being brutal off the line.

[xblode]

This reminds me, I had a conversation with a friend from Germany who works for Bosch, with family members working for VW in engineering capacities. He mentioned to me that using Launch Control on a DSG box is really bad for it and that it significantly reduces it's life. Yes it's a feature of the car so it should be capable without drastically reducing the life of a DSG box but he advised me against using it.

Using Launch control has never interested me as I reckon it's just too brutal anyway.

I know this is just heresay and the old "a mate of a mate of a mate" story but regardless, I thought I'd mention it.

[logger]

xblode I agree - Launch Control cannot do it any good. They have left it off the DSG7 because it is fitted to lower torqued cars, but also so the clutches last the "life" of the car.
In regard the 6.9sec - my lowly 118TSI DSG7 can do that
Details at APR ECU Upgrade MK6 Golf Also had it up to 215 on the dial which isn't bad for 1.4 litres. So I would hope a GTI could beat that easily.

[iBoost]

VW are being pretty conservative on the 0 - 100 times. I know MOTOR magazine clocked the GTI at about 6.4 from memory, and the new 3 MPS was 6.5.

I've also seen a number of people state that the GTI makes almost the same power at the wheels as VW claim at the engine (155 kws). I know each dyno is different but these figures may also be slightly conservative.

In addition many manufacturers test their cars with two people on board or extra real world weight in the car.

When I test drove the GTI it did feel similarly quick to my old 3 MPS on my butt dyno.

[Mk6 GTI]

This reminds me, I had a conversation with a friend from Germany who works for Bosch, with family members working for VW in engineering capacities. He mentioned to me that using Launch Control on a DSG box is really bad for it and that it significantly reduces it's life. Yes it's a feature of the car so it should be capable without drastically reducing the life of a DSG box but he advised me against using it.

Using Launch control has never interested me as I reckon it's just too brutal anyway.

I know this is just heresay and the old "a mate of a mate of a mate" story but regardless, I thought I'd mention it.

Funny you say that because i watch a VW presentationon YouTube that they gave to a room full of press when the GTI was being released to the US market and well they also didnt really suggest it be used :|

So there could be some truth in what you said!

[Mk6 GTI]

hmm so i guess you could almost say that it has a 0-100 of 6.5 as an average..

[Mk6 GTI]

Take a look at this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IGWFFpI88o

Guys.. this is the US version GTI and they are claiming 0-100 in 6.3 seconds.

And i think that the US version still has the mk5 engine?? :|