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  • Probably an ignorant question, but what do the headlight washers have to do with installing these lights? Are the washers not controlled independently (ie, through the wiper system which you control internally)? Are they wired into the headlight assembly somehow?

    I would love the get these on my GTI... just want an easy way to do it!
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    • Originally posted by SAINIside View Post
      Probably an ignorant question, but what do the headlight washers have to do with installing these lights? Are the washers not controlled independently (ie, through the wiper system which you control internally)? Are they wired into the headlight assembly somehow?

      I would love the get these on my GTI... just want an easy way to do it!
      As I understand it they are to keep the glass clean so as not to let the beams flare due to dirt distorting the light and blind people due to their brightness
      I was also told not to put headlight protectors on for the same reason..
      Some earlier model cars also had wipers on the headlights as well as washers.

      The Passat ones wash every 5th time the wipers go on.

      Will be a long time between washes in Qld as we have had 2 hrs of rain since 29th June
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      • I get that they are there to keep the headlight clean and not interfere with beam (as these xenon type ones are prone to flare more than the standard headlights). But at the end of the day, they are not automatic. It is up to the driver to activate them just like the wipers.

        I'm wondering more about why people say if you retrofit xenons, then you also have to fit washers, but if the car comes with washers already, then do they need some kind of special wiring also?

        Also - anyone know where I can find M4RKO's write-up... I can't seem to find it!
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        • Whether you agree or not it is an ADR rule so must be complied with to be legal

          Not all rules are logical but still must be complied with.

          They will of course be wired in and have a control module somewhere to make them work.

          Possible a recoding will activate the required bits if they are fitted.

          Mine came with the rather expensive package.
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          • Originally posted by Hillbilly View Post
            The Passat ones wash every 5th time the wipers go on.

            Will be a long time between washes in Qld as we have had 2 hrs of rain since 29th June
            What about when you use the windscreen washers? Actually I thought it was the 5th time you used the windscreen washers, not just the wipers.
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            • Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
              What about when you use the windscreen washers? Actually I thought it was the 5th time you used the windscreen washers, not just the wipers.

              You are correct The salesman told me wipers,but on reading the manual it says the first and then every 5th time the washers are used.

              Still wont get used much in QLD
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              • nw, I often use the ashers regardless of rain since they get dirty fairly quickly and there's a nice smell when you use the proper VW fluid.
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                • Originally posted by SAINIside View Post
                  Also - anyone know where I can find M4RKO's write-up... I can't seem to find it!
                  Here you go mate.

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                  There are allot of rules regarding mods, not all logical but rules non the less.

                  Just use a common sense approach and you'll be fine. I've aligned my lights accordingly and can guarantee its not blinding any drivers. What makes it illegal is it doesn't have a $1k auto-levelling motor... ?!?
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                  • Originally posted by XQUIZT View Post
                    Just use a common sense approach and you'll be fine. I've aligned my lights accordingly and can guarantee its not blinding any drivers. What makes it illegal is it doesn't have a $1k auto-levelling motor... ?!?
                    The automatic levelling system is supposed to adjust the headlight beam according to vehicle load (i.e. passengers and/or cargo) via sensors attached to the suspension.

                    It's quite easy to dazzle oncoming traffic if the beam isn't adjusted for load (even with halogen bulbs, let alone gas discharge bulbs) which is why nearly all European cars come with a manually-operated beam level adjuster.

                    However, the regulations state that this has to done automatically for cars with gas discharge bulbs.

                    The high output of gas discharge bulbs (typically 3200 lumen for a D1S bulb, compared to 1500 lumen for a H7 bulb) inevitably means that their usage is going to be strictly regulated.

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                    • Chinese headlamps

                      I finally got the chance to do the coding for the Chinese replica headlights. After trying the codes suggested we got nothing. We hit the forums in hope of (pardon the pun) getting some light.

                      One thread on here said to change byte 15 or 18 (I can't remember) to E4. This byte was about the whole cars lighting system and with warning suggesting not to change this.

                      With nothing really to lose we change the byte, lights now set for a scirocco RoW. And hello the LED running lights were on. Only problem the warning for the R taillights is now on. We tried a number of other tick and flick options and even reverted back to the old code in the hope that it might just work.

                      I had two options no error on the MDF and no LED's or LED's with the error light. I choose the error option as the reason for buy the replicas was for the LED option after all.

                      On my way home I also discovered another problem. To have the LED's on the lights need to be on the park light option. I've turned the drls off on the MDF but still only work when watched on parkers.

                      ideas that may help? I am sure it just in the coding that we have forgotten to tick or not tick

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                      • I'd be contacting the seller requesting more info, and, failing that you could try the US forums (VWVortex etc) or Ross-Tech themselves (if you own VCDS). Beyond that, I'd say you're out of luck - coding the Central Electrics module for a replica set of lights possibly intended for foreign market cars and differing versions of the Central Electrics module sounds like a world of pain.
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                        • Originally posted by AdamD View Post
                          I'd be contacting the seller requesting more info, and, failing that you could try the US forums (VWVortex etc) or Ross-Tech themselves (if you own VCDS). Beyond that, I'd say you're out of luck - coding the Central Electrics module for a replica set of lights possibly intended for foreign market cars and differing versions of the Central Electrics module sounds like a world of pain.
                          Well there are others on here that have got them and are working fine and figured it would be the best [lace to first. I mean isnt that what a forum is about? so I was hoping for a little info as I am no pro when it comes to the Central Electrics module at all.... no even newbie!!!

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                          • Originally posted by TeamCrash View Post
                            Well there are others on here that have got them and are working fine and figured it would be the best [lace to first. I mean isnt that what a forum is about? so I was hoping for a little info as I am no pro when it comes to the Central Electrics module at all.... no even newbie!!!
                            Apologies if I offended you there; your post is entirely legitimate and I'm not trying to imply otherwise. Hope you track down the info you're after!
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                            • With issues surrounding the legal use of the hid's, I'm wondering whether these oem headlights would be legal if I were to install but just transfer my current halogens?

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                              • If you're going to spend that much on just the housings I'd recommend you also get new brighter halogen bulbs that complete the look.

                                Are you sure they're to be used with halogens since it mentions transferring ballasts, etc?
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