What to buy? GTI or R20

[G-rig]

I think if you're ordering more than a couple of options it would be best to keep the car as long as you can..

May also come down to if you prefer a GTI with a lot of options or if you are happy to get into an R with not many options.

I'd be happy with either to be honest, and the GTI handles pretty well and would be enough for the streets. Golf R nice if you want to track it or go for huge power mods.

Ps were you going to get 3 or 5dr elisiX? Personally I'd probably go for a 3dr with sunroof or 5dr without (to offset the cost).

[elisiX]

The GTI was ordered in 5DR and is my preference.. but the R will depend on what's available.

For example. If 2 R's are available..

3 DR DSG w/ Leather, Xenon, Sunroof, MDI, NAV..

5 DR DSG w/ Leather, Xenon, Sunroof, MDI

and the pricing is similar.. I may be swayed into the 3 DR.

Ideally I want 5 DR DSG w/ Leather, Xenon, Sunroof, MDI, NAV.. but I am quite sure that will easily exceed my $65k limit.

This is all assuming leather and xenon are standard btw.

[astro]

elisiX I think you might be a bit disappointed as i don't belive they will be coming with leather as STD read the NZ site http://www.volkswagen.co.nz/publish/...lf/golf_r.html they are coming with Black sports fabric(Black Cloth :S??).... so i don't see why they get cloth as std an we get leather an they pay more then us....

[elisiX]

While the NZ vehicles can serve as an indication to statistics/performance figures, I don't think it applies to standard specification.

I deliberately called almost every dealer in Sydney the other day to get any info I could about the R. Every one said Leather and Xenon will be standard.

Of course nothing's official and they could be very wrong.

[Glennb]

The various photos i've seen on the web show 3 different versions of seats.

1. Sports seats with leather & seude inserts
2. Sports seats in full leather
3. Recaro Bucket seats (leather i think?)

The full leather will by my choice.

[Christopher]

Surely you couldn't go past leather recaro's...
would be great for the track if you fancy a few laps..

[andylena]

While the NZ vehicles can serve as an indication to statistics/performance figures, I don't think it applies to standard specification.

I deliberately called almost every dealer in Sydney the other day to get any info I could about the R. Every one said Leather and Xenon will be standard.

Of course nothing's official and they could be very wrong.

lets hope so as then i would only have to add sunroof, dynaudio to the options list

[G-rig]

I deliberately called almost every dealer in Sydney the other day to get any info I could about the R. Every one said Leather and Xenon will be standard.

Of course nothing's official and they could be very wrong.

Will just have to wait and see .

If those two items aren't standard it would bump the price up a lot more over a GTI.

Surely you couldn't go past leather recaro's...
would be great for the track if you fancy a few laps..

Leather isn't really the best for racing seats is it, you'd slide around a bit?

I wouldnt mind leather recaros if i had a 5dr R, but wouldnt' bother with a 3dr.. Makes it a bit hard to reach/access the back seat.

[Corey_R]

The various photos i've seen on the web show 3 different versions of seats.

1. Sports seats with leather & seude inserts
2. Sports seats in full leather
3. Recaro Bucket seats (leather i think?)

The full leather will by my choice.

Yeah - the Recaro Bucket seats are also in full leather.

Surely you couldn't go past leather recaro's...
would be great for the track if you fancy a few laps..

I personally think they would be nice.... BUUUUUUUUT....

Because ALL Golf R's will be subject to at least a few dollars in LCT, the cost of the Recaro seats, if they come in at the $4,000 as they currently do in the R32, will actually cost you.....

...WAAAAAAIT FOR IT......

$5460!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Christopher]

wow, that sucks hard!

so.......... Sports seats with leather & seude inserts FTW!

[Corey_R]

Nah... Sports seats with leather FTW
(which will hopefully be standard in this country)

[G-rig]

Recaros in part suede would be better so you don't slip around, and doesn't crease like a mofo..

Or just fit Sportster CS, and escape some luxury tax.

[Corey_R]

Yeah - you'd be far best to do that, buy them separately after the car.
Having said that - I personally find the standard GTI seat, whether in cloth or leather, plenty supportive enough, even for going around corners like a looney. I think that unless you actually also install a racing harness, which is illegal for road use, I think the standard GTI/R seats are practically as supportive as Recaros.

Btw - if we don't get leather seats as standard in the Golf R, expect the Recaro seats to be far more than the $4000 ($5460 'otr') they are in the R32. In the UK where the 'Black/Grey 'Kyalami' cloth' seats are standard for the Golf R, the Recaro seats are a £3230/£3485 option (3dr/5dr) as it includes the cost of the 'leather' upgrade for the door trim and rear seats. At current exchange rate that would be $5,822 to $6,281 - or a whopping $7947 to $8574 after LCT and stamp duties. *eek*

[dave_r]

Did the guys you dealt with seem like they would be negotiating at all on the initial R's that come, or was everything was based on pure RRP inc dealer delivery etc and no discount?

They're saying no discounts but who knows.

Yeah - as far as I'm aware there are only two DSG gearboxes in use by VW. The original 6-speed wet-clutch DSG, and the new 7-speed dry-clutch DSG used on the newer models (it has a lower torque rating though).

Hmm seat of the pants etc it was different, I'm sure it was!

$5460!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah that will sway me against them. Not spending those dollars on seats when the stock leather ones will be more than adequate.

[gareth_oau]

anyone have a link or pic of what the R20 recaros look like?