118TSI - General Discussion

[Mk R]

From where i can get Golf 6R or Audi S3 intercooler ? I can barely see in the internet offer for it. And what is a good price for it.

Part number 1K0145803BP for a 2012 Golf R intercooler. You score them when people with Golf R's or Audit S3's upgrade their stock units. Should Cost you between $200-$400 used, maybe less if you're lucky. You can order them new too but often for more $$$.

Scour the VWWatercooled and VWGolf.net.au parts for sale forum sections and list in the Want to buy sections.

Here's one. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Factory-Intercooler-Volkswagen-Golf-R-Mk6-20T-Good-Update-For-GTI-/122123987827?hash=item1c6f282b73:g:W-YAAOSwvzRX0mom

Just realised you're in Bulgaria! Sorry. There should be plenty on Ebay Germany though...

[lordlosh]

Thanks for the answer.

[lordlosh]

The car is still in the service waiting for a timing chain change, still waiting for parts from VW.
But they cant find from where is the high oil consumption. The mechanic says there is no leak and the car is dry. There is only a little loosening/gap in the turbo.
Any suggestion, cause 1/1000km oil consumption is a lot !?

[ExplosivePeacock]

TIMING CHAIN ISSUE

Hi guys, so I've had my 2009 118tsi for almost three years now and had no problems at all sitting at 79000k's. About three months ago it developed the timing chain rattle on startup. I took it the Castle Volkswagen in November and they let the car sit for a week before diagnosing the problem, it turned out to be the timing chain tensioners. They quoted me $4000 to fix! I told them how VW knew it was an issue with the engine and then the guy said ok we'll email the head office and see if they can offer goodwill. So I waited a few days and no reply, called them again and he said oh yeh ill send the email now to the head office. Anyways after a week he finally replied and said that VW will pay for the parts and 60% of labour. So around $400 dollars is what i have to pay. I told them to go ahead with it. A called them a week later now into mid december 2016 and they still hadn't ordered the parts!! anyways after afew days of chasing them up they finally ordered the parts. I asked them for a loan car a few times and they didn't even have any available. So i called them again first week of January and still no parts. Anyways the parts finally arrived on friday last week and they said repairs will start this monday. I tried calling them two times today and no answer. Out of the many times I've called them only afew times they actually answer. What annoys me is whenever I call no one on the other end of the phone actually has a clue whats happening it takes a while before I'm finally transfered to the right person. They are very unorganised. On top of that they still don't have any loan cars and my car has been sitting at the shop for two months now.

That dragged on quite bit, I want to ask you guys is it worth keeping the car once it has been fixed or should I sell it???
I'm worried that more issues might arise with this engine in the future and cost me alot more down the road.

[Mk R]

Sounds like the first thing you need to replace is your mechanic.

After warranty you're really just self harming if you take it to a dealership. Their labour is much more expensive, not necessarily the most experienced and they can only use VW parts too which are more expensive and give you less options.

If you're worried about popping a piston then just keep getting compression tests when you get services (at your new mechanic). They're cheap and the should show any drops in pressure as a piston weakens. You won't get much for your car now, maybe $10 grand. Depending on your cars options you might struggle to find one as comfy and nice for the money but there's plenty of more reliable cars out there in that price range...

EDIT: The 2009 118 TSIs were bad for engine failures and you've got a few km on the clock. Mine started losing compression at about 80,000 km. Selling it when you get it back could be a smart idea. The 103 TDIs and the 90 TSIs were much more reliable.

[lordlosh]

I can`t decide what to do with the car as well. The car is fu**** great, superb fuel mpg and great acceleration. Absolutely beast on road, beat so many car with this twincharger and no one believe this is 1.4tsi car.
The car is 2011year 90,000km with almost full Equipment with alcantara, park assist and so on, but can i rely on this engine and gearbox?
The main problem for me is the 1/1000km oil consumption. Probably disaster waiting to happen.
And in few days i notice that DSG is shudder on second(2)gear, only on D.
I`m not sure what to do, to sell the car and get 2.0tfsi Audi/Passat or change the piston(probably the reason for oil consumption) with Wossner forged ones, but still would this car be reliable after i change pistons?
So far i have change the Timing Chain, put Iridium IX sparks, R8 Coils and TMG AIR COLD INTAKE.
Can`t decide should i go for Wossner Forged Piston change and will this give me a reliable car. Or simply sell the car start searching for new 2.0tfsi.
Need advice guys.

[Mk R]

I can`t decide what to do with the car as well. The car is fu**** great, superb fuel mpg and great acceleration. Absolutely beast on road, beat so many car with this twincharger and no one believe this is 1.4tsi car.
The car is 2011year 90,000km with almost full Equipment with alcantara, park assist and so on, but can i rely on this engine and gearbox?
The main problem for me is the 1/1000km oil consumption. Probably disaster waiting to happen.
And in few days i notice that DSG is shudder on second(2)gear, only on D.
I`m not sure what to do, to sell the car and get 2.0tfsi Audi/Passat or change the piston(probably the reason for oil consumption) with Wossner forged ones, but still would this car be reliable after i change pistons?
So far i have change the Timing Chain, put Iridium IX sparks, R8 Coils and TMG AIR COLD INTAKE.
Can`t decide should i go for Wossner Forged Piston change and will this give me a reliable car. Or simply sell the car start searching for new 2.0tfsi.
Need advice guys.

If you're worried about the piston failing then do a compression test. It's simple, cheap and quick for a mechanic to do. If you've got significantly lower compression in one cylinder then you know it's coming. Can't help you with the DSG i'm afraid, I've got a manual.

I've heard of the TSI engines drinking LOTS of oil and not just in the 1.4 twincharger variety. Google "TSI oil consumption" and get comfortable.

In my humble opinion, if you spend the cash (and it's a lot of cash) on the new pistons you're only half way to having a reliable car because the DSG could go too. If you have to do both then you'll have paid the value of the car all over again.

If the car is in decent shape you probably won't regret selling it and getting yourself into something with a 2.0 TFSI Quattro or 4motion. I'd never bother tuning a front wheel drive over 180 kW and that's not hard in the 2.0 engines.

[lordlosh]

For now decided not to sell the car and to put a forged piston on it. Already spend a lot of money on the car, no sense to sell it.
Will probably drive it 3-5 more years and then get a new car or 1-2 years old, but probably won`t be a VW or if it`s VW will go with GTI this time.

I have done a compression test last year and all was okay. Back then i still have oil consumption. So that should mean, its not from the Piston/Piston Rings? I will do again to see what will show.
After i change to forged piston will go for TMG performance stage 1 and get an oil catch can from them for the carbon build. Also is it a smart idea to remove the catalyst for few more hp ?
And thanks for the reply.

[sixboltmains]

Hello,

Could anyone please tell me is there is any special way to remove this connector from the back of the plastic intake manifold ?

Thanks!

[Lucas_R]

Looks like those tabs need to be squeezed with your fingers then it will pop off.

[xlot]

Up from the dead!

I picked up a MY10 manual comfortline yesterday for daughter to learn to drive manual in, and then use once she passes her test. She's keen to help to sort it out and maintain it - she did her first oil change on our X5 a couple of months ago.

Only thing it didn't come with is the owner's manual - can anyone with an owner's manual confirm the part number for a 2009 (MY10) Golf Comfortline 118tsi Manual-trans.

I *think* its 102.5R1.GO6..20 but without ETKA installed (yet) I can't just look it up. I've had a few Audi's over the years, altho' not for a while.

The car is a hoot to drive - slow-as (8s to 100), but it was cheap, straight, and came with a great service history. Its had the various recalls done, as well as recent water pump, clutch kit, slave + master cylinders, brake discs, quality tyres, etc. (has 160k kms). I plugged in and checked before buying - it has zero fault codes and no code clear for 12k kms.. so well maintained.

Making a project list - today's tasks will be to refurb the plastic headlights as they've got the usual UV pitting/fogging, order fabric/glue in advance of removing and replacing the sagging headliner, treat the leather, and make a list of part numbers and service items to order.

[dribs]

My 118tsi is closing up to 13yrs of ownership from brand new.

I've noticed since last year, it has started to burn oil. Waterpump blew itself early last year and that got fixed up. Later that year (2023), got my first low oil level warning since ownership. Got it topped up.

Driving home tonight, again the low oil level warning came up again. Due for its yearly service in 2 months. I did check the dipstick and its quite... low.

Will have to top it up to prevent a major headache before the service, but what do I tell VW to check for @ the service? They will probably say its within spec.. but I've never had to top up anything for the first 12 years of its life.

[brad]

My 118tsi is closing up to 13yrs of ownership from brand new.

I've noticed since last year, it has started to burn oil. Waterpump blew itself early last year and that got fixed up. Later that year (2023), got my first low oil level warning since ownership. Got it topped up.

Driving home tonight, again the low oil level warning came up again. Due for its yearly service in 2 months. I did check the dipstick and its quite... low.

Will have to top it up to prevent a major headache before the service, but what do I tell VW to check for @ the service? They will probably say its within spec.. but I've never had to top up anything for the first 12 years of its life.

13 years in and still going to a dealership? Wow.

You don't say how many km you've done or how often the services are happening. It's hard to give sensible advice without knowing that detail.

Why aren't you doing a monthly visual fluid level and tyre pressure check?

[Lucas_R]

I would consider yourself very lucky that you have owned a 118TSI for 13 years and not had any of the heardache that 99% of other owners have had with these cars. Can I ask if yours is manual or auto (DSG) because it seems that the manuals are less likely to have the broken piston issues as they are driven at higher revs than the autos which are always at very low RPM in a high gear and causing the engine to ping. Then of course the manuals dont have all the issues that the autos have with the overheating clutches and shuddering etc.

As for the oil consumption, if its happened all of a sudden then are you sure its not a leak or some other issue (like a failed PCV for example) that is causing the engine to burn some oil. Ruling an issue out, then I would just buy some of the correct spec oil (available at your local Supercheap/Repco etc) and top it up when it needs it. You can also try a slightly thicker oil like 5w-40 which is slightly thicker when hot and less likely to burn, compared to the traditional 5w-30 that VW recommends.

My 118tsi is closing up to 13yrs of ownership from brand new.

I've noticed since last year, it has started to burn oil. Waterpump blew itself early last year and that got fixed up. Later that year (2023), got my first low oil level warning since ownership. Got it topped up.

Driving home tonight, again the low oil level warning came up again. Due for its yearly service in 2 months. I did check the dipstick and its quite... low.

Will have to top it up to prevent a major headache before the service, but what do I tell VW to check for @ the service? They will probably say its within spec.. but I've never had to top up anything for the first 12 years of its life.

[dribs]

She's currently at 180km and gets her 15,000km service every year, haven't skipped one. Next service due in November. I do check the tyre pressures, oil not so much at all as for the first 12 years, never needed to. Will have to keep an eye on it now I guess due to its age.

I drive around metro Sydney nowadays about 30km each day for work, but for a good 5 years before then it was going up and down the M1 weekly.

It's a DSG. It's had all the recalls done, timing tensioner and all was "fixed" preventatively 4yrs ago.

Will keep an eye on it and like you said, if not a PCV or leak, then have to top up. Was just wondering what I should tell the service centre to check for at the next service for the increased oil use that's all. I've been reading potentially oil leaking due to weak rings as the TSI ages or just maybe pistons wanting to crack?

Just topped her up at lunch with Castrol EDGE sw-30 1L, will see how she goes!