Golf GTI Mark VI Specifications and Prices

[Plopeye]

Official Price List: (on road costs)

3 door man: $43,673
3 door DSG: $46,273

5 door man: $45,233
5 door DSG: $47,833

Optional Equipment: (on road costs)
Metallic paint: $728
Sunroof: $1,976
Satnav: $2,600
Satnav + dynaudio: $3,952
Dynaudio: $1,352
Media device interface: $281
PArk Assist: $1,456
Rear View Cam: $520
Park assist + cam: $1,976
ACC: $1,560
Leather: $3,432
Electric seats: $624
Bi-xenon: $2,080
18 inch detroits: $1,248
Tints: $416

[Corey_R]

Official Price List: (on road costs)

3 door man: $43,673
3 door DSG: $46,273

5 door man: $45,233
5 door DSG: $47,833

Optional Equipment: (on road costs)
Metallic paint: $728
Sunroof: $1,976
Satnav: $2,600
Satnav + dynaudio: $3,952
Dynaudio: $1,352
Media device interface: $281
PArk Assist: $1,456
Rear View Cam: $520
Park assist + cam: $1,976
ACC: $1,560
Leather: $3,432
Electric seats: $624
Bi-xenon: $2,080
18 inch detroits: $1,248
Tints: $416

Man - I don't know where you got that price list from, but it hardly looks official. It certainly isn't the same as the 'official' price list over at my-gti.com which is supposedly sourced from VW. The other thing is, the options CANNOT include 'onroad' costs because it VARIES depending on how many options, what the dealer delivery is, and what your age and location is, and the onroads AND taxes vary depending on what state you're in.

Please refer to the very first post in this thread, which links you to this:
Volkswagen Golf GTI Mark VI Prices and Specifications MY10 September 2009

[Corey_R]

He looked at me with a puzzled look and advised there is zero flexibility with new cars. I advised him I have never heard of anyone buying a car without any form of negotiation. He again said it is normal for new release cars to sell with no negotiations. I asked if this is a VW thing or a blanket scenario and he said if a new series car is released price is always firm. I then looked at him in a puzzled way (being the negotiator I am with every car I buy) and explained my history in buying cars. His reply was that the last 8 R8's he sold were all non negotiated prices. So this is something we did not agree on but anyway. The first rule of negotiating is to always be prepared to walk out so I told him that if there is no flexibility on price then he need not hold the vehicle for me and I dont want him to miss out on selling it to one of the other 3 proposed buyers. HE questioned my intention to purchase a car and I told him I am in the market for a new car but there will be some form of negotiation and we began to talk about the time frame the mk6 gti will probably start to reduce in price (1 year).

I think that what the dealer is saying is somewhat true, but needs further clarification. If a manufacturer like Honda releases a new Accord and has 4000 of them ready to supply to the market quickly, but has 3000 purchasers lined up, then there is obviously room to negotiate. There are more cars than purchasers, and even if the balance slides the other way, Honda ramp them out so quick etc.
However, when you have a 'new car' like a Golf GTI or Audi R8 etc, where there are far more purchasers than cars available, at that point there is normally no negotiation. Why would they need to negotiate a discount of 10% when one of the other purchasers is happy to pay full price to ensure they get the car?
The '1 year' rule isn't hard and fast - but it's usually around that time that they've caught up with the rush, there are more cars than purchasers, and the dealers are willing to be flexible with the purchasers.

It's not just a VW thing. Go to BMW and try to get a discount on an M3 when it first came out! They'd laugh at you because they'd already sold the first three allocations to Australia before the first car arrived.

[pologti18t]

Plopeye... are you serious about buying a car or just mucking the dealer about?

You've placed a deposit on a car, sight unseen, no firm price or delivery date and now want a car with a differing spec and now you want to negotiate? Why didn't you just wait until the car was released, the prices announced and the cars were in stock before going into a dealer and doing the deal?

[Plopeye]

Man - I don't know where you got that price list from, but it hardly looks official. It certainly isn't the same as the 'official' price list over at my-gti.com which is supposedly sourced from VW. The other thing is, the options CANNOT include 'onroad' costs because it VARIES depending on how many options, what the dealer delivery is, and what your age and location is, and the onroads AND taxes vary depending on what state you're in.

Please refer to the very first post in this thread, which links you to this:
Volkswagen Golf GTI Mark VI Prices and Specifications MY10 September 2009

I got that price list from my VW dealer. I have it on a sheet of paper so it is an official document from VW. IS the my-gti web site an official site from VWA? Happy to scan or jpg the price list as per my dealer if you like bud.

[Plopeye]

Plopeye... are you serious about buying a car or just mucking the dealer about?

You've placed a deposit on a car, sight unseen, no firm price or delivery date and now want a car with a differing spec and now you want to negotiate? Why didn't you just wait until the car was released, the prices announced and the cars were in stock before going into a dealer and doing the deal?

I based my deposit on the fact that the vehicle was not going to be readily available when initially released. When I paid my deposit my dealer could not give me an official price, or an official list of accessories or extras. So I paid my deposit so I could be "in the queue" for when these details became available.

pologti, now it would have been stupid of me to proceed with the purchase if the pricing or conditions of the sale did not suit me dont you think? So to answer your question I am serious about buying a car bud, but I am not serious to proceed with any type purchase while being left in the dark. To me that would have been silly. The purpose of the deposit, which i made clear to the dealer at the start was to be able to purchase the car prior to Jan based on: agreed value, specs, early delivery etc. My needs were not met in these 3 criterea and I am not the type of person to just settle on whatever.

When I paid my deposit I told him I wanted my car to have the 18 inch wheels as well. My sales manager told me the 18 inch wheels is not going to be an option and they would only have 17 inch wheels. This is another spec that was "not available" at the time of deposit. If I said I Wanted that spec then my deposit was pointless because that specific car would still not have been available to me for another 4 - 5 months.

[Corey_R]

I got that price list from my VW dealer. I have it on a sheet of paper so it is an official document from VW. IS the my-gti web site an official site from VWA? Happy to scan or jpg the price list as per my dealer if you like bud.

What I'm saying is, IF they include onroads, the price is for YOU and YOU alone. Not an official price list. Much more, you're in SA so it is not relevant to people in say VIC or NSW, even if they're the same age as you etc.


As for the options and accessories. I think the only thing on the list which was not known to be coming (at least I didn't see it anywhere in the past 6 months) was the electric seat adjustment for the 5 door. They've left that off the golf in previous releases in Australia. All other options were expected, and expected at or around the prices (Maverick) listed. I think unfortunately the dealer or sales person you spoke to was maybe a bit in the dark and since you also didn't know what was coming, it has left you in this situation.

[Plopeye]

What I'm saying is, IF they include onroads, the price is for YOU and YOU alone. Not an official price list. Much more, you're in SA so it is not relevant to people in say VIC or NSW, even if they're the same age as you etc.


As for the options and accessories. I think the only thing on the list which was not known to be coming (at least I didn't see it anywhere in the past 6 months) was the electric seat adjustment for the 5 door. They've left that off the golf in previous releases in Australia. All other options were expected, and expected at or around the prices (Maverick) listed. I think unfortunately the dealer or sales person you spoke to was maybe a bit in the dark and since you also didn't know what was coming, it has left you in this situation.

Gotcha bud. Apologies for my wording in my previous post re the price list and thanks for picking me up on that.

You think if I go to another dealer the numbers could be different?

The elect seats is for the 5 dr only when leather is an option according to the price list the gave me yesterday.

[Corey_R]

You think if I go to another dealer the numbers could be different?

At this time, with the no negotiation on car price (if all dealers are sticking to that), the only difference you may experience with going to another dealer is a different 'dealer delivery' price, or dealer 'freebies'. A few quotes I've seen the dealer delivery at around $2995 - so if you can negotiate on that, or wave it completely, then there is a significant saving. LCT and Stamp Duty calculations both take into account dealer delivery, so waving that can effect up to $4088 depending on the car configuration and your state's duties.

[Maverick]

I got that price list from my VW dealer. I have it on a sheet of paper so it is an official document from VW. IS the my-gti web site an official site from VWA? Happy to scan or jpg the price list as per my dealer if you like bud.

That's what your dealer is charging and isn't an official document from VW. Those prices will vary especially if it hits the luxury tax threshold (easy to do with a few options).

[Sharkie]

Bottom line here guys ..... whilst there are more buyers than cars available there will be no discounting (or negotiating) on price.

Expect at least 12 months before you will be able to negotiate a price on a new GTI with a dealer.

Everybody that paid a deposit to be in the queue early has exactly that ... an early option to get into a new GTI. If your contract said subject to an acceptable price (as mine does) then it comes down to this ......
if you don't like the price, you can walk away and get your deposit back.

Nowhere does it say you can negotiate to get a better price .... .... Dealer discount and Corporate discount will not be available initially.The best you may hope for is a few small freebies or a small spec inclusion (as in inexpensive) on a dealer pre-ordered car.

Expect to pay full RRP for a while .......

[g20]

i was told corporate discount is available?

[pologti18t]

I based my deposit on the fact that the vehicle was not going to be readily available when initially released. When I paid my deposit my dealer could not give me an official price, or an official list of accessories or extras. So I paid my deposit so I could be "in the queue" for when these details became available.

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

Perhaps a MPS3 would be a better bet for you. No plethora of options and available with a discount at the moment.

[Sharkie]

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

It happens quite often actually ...... especially on "in demand" cars.

I ordered the Mk6 R purely on the fact that I want the car. I'm accepting that I will likely have no negotiating power when it comes to purchasing time and that the dealer has me by the short and curly's ..... Within reason I'm prepared to pay full RRP .....

i was told corporate discount is available?

Better check/confirm with your dealer. Tiguans was off the Corporate Discount list for more than 12months after release and I believe CCs to be as well still. Noises I heard from my dealer (about 3 weeks ago now) was that it was not available on the MK6 GTIs either until further notice.

[Plopeye]

Do people often join a queue when they dont know what they are getting or how much they what they will pay for it? weird

Perhaps a MPS3 would be a better bet for you. No plethora of options and available with a discount at the moment.

You will find that quite a few ppl did just that by reading these forums. Lots of ppl paid a deposit with conditions to get in the queue. The beauty of that is if official details when available don't meet a particular critera the deposit is refundable.

Pity I find the mps an ugly car but cheers for the suggestion