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In a FWD? LOL. Just what we need, proportionally more rear grip = more understeer.
18x8 +50 no worries.
Its going to look silly in the back, 8 inch wheels are really not very wide. You're going to be kicking yourself every day once you see a MKIV - MKVI with some nice wide staggered wheels.
And there is no impact on handling, an improvement if anything from the car I've driven with the above suggested set up!
sorry, i dont agree. I wont be kicking myself for not getting 9.5s which are a defect in NSW, and i wont kick myself when for not upsetting the chassis balance. this is basic car set up.......yes it will affect the handling. Adding grip at one end and not the other changes handling characteristics.........more rear grip = more front push, less lift off oversteer used for tightening a line in a FWD. 8's are plenty wide for a shopping trolley....imho....I would reckon it would look better though
sorry, i dont agree. I wont be kicking myself for not getting 9.5s which are a defect in NSW, and i wont kick myself when for not upsetting the chassis balance. this is basic car set up.......yes it will affect the handling. Adding grip at one end and not the other changes handling characteristics.........more rear grip = more front push, less lift off oversteer used for tightening a line in a FWD. 8's are plenty wide for a shopping trolley....imho....I would reckon it would look better though
The rears will fit in the guards perfectly, a number of members on here have similar set-ups on their cars and have never encountered any problems during a police inspection.
As for changing the suspension geometry, I don't have an opinion on that is I'll admit to not understanding the MKV chassis and this topic in general.
Although what I will say is that your car as with 99.9% of all MKVI's will most likely never be tracked or driven heavily to the point where such things really come into play. Although I could be completely wrong in your case.
Regardless, enjoy the car and consider the 9.5's!!!
In fact, 18x8.5 + 50 (which is what the Oettinger's are) and you'd have no worries*. But 18x9.5 and you'd be illegal. But, like you're saying, I think it's completely unnecessary for the GTI
The rears will fit in the guards perfectly, a number of members on here have similar set-ups on their cars and have never encountered any problems during a police inspection
Sorry man. I'd have to disagree, from having had the 8.5" 50 offset Oettinger wheels on my GTI. They just fit, but an additional inch would definitely not fit unless the offset was adjusted. You'd need to at least provide some more details of what their offsets are etc.
*With the 8.5" width, I actually hit the guards are few times on corning heavy corning and going over a bump at a decent speed... but the rears were always fine.
A member on here Tim, has a MKV with Audi TT 19x9.5's ET45 on the rear and they clear the guards and from what I can tell does not have any real issues with his guards on the back.
The rears will fit in the guards perfectly, a number of members on here have similar set-ups on their cars and have never encountered any problems during a police inspection.
As for changing the suspension geometry, I don't have an opinion on that is I'll admit to not understanding the MKV chassis and this topic in general.
Although what I will say is that your car as with 99.9% of all MKVI's will most likely never be tracked or driven heavily to the point where such things really come into play. Although I could be completely wrong in your case.
Regardless, enjoy the car and consider the 9.5's!!!
its a defect. you can check RTA hand book. +1inch width on standard is max. You need an engineers cert for anything beyond. Im not worried about getting done in a car check, more around insurance in the event of a major accident.
its not a question of geometry, but one of grip. I have played around with car set up in the past and i can tell you its the case. Not just me, any book on race car set up will tell you the same. applies to road cars equally.
cool, well in that case lets just put nankangs on them and hard park them at maccas ...i like to balance form and function
cheers
rob
SORRY GUYS FOR THE HIJACK - LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC !
Last edited by erko; 03-11-2009, 04:49 PM.
Reason: hijack apology :)
A member on here Tim, has a MKV with Audi TT 19x9.5's ET45 on the rear and they clear the guards and from what I can tell does not have any real issues with his guards on the back.
If the Audi TT 19" wheels are 9.5" wide, then they'd need to have a unique offset or be modified to fit on the GTI.
This was my car (sorry for the photo not being better targetted to the rear wheels... I only have limited pictures before the bus ate it).
They are the Oettinger 18"x8.5 50 offset Type RE wheels specifically for the GTI. They are so close to protuding from the guard at the top (they're very obviously protuding half way down) that even VW questioned whether they were legal when they saw the car. I then pointed them to the Oettinger site to say that they're specifically for this car that they shrugged their shoulders and just agreed with me.
So whilst I have no doubt that you _could_ put 9.5" width wheels on there, they could not possibly be the standard offset for the GTI without being illegal. But as erko has stated I doubt there would be any handling benefit anyway.... though it might look cool from the rear
That configuration would be $51078.74 drive away in NSW (QLD would differ slightly). I think considering you've got ~$4k discount, you are doing very well (with corp discount) or unbelievably well (without corp discount). I'd say your dealer must be absolutely desparate if the latter is the case
I'm trying to get a good price from melbourne dealers. No luck here, no one seems to want to budge on price. Best I can get on a Candy White, 5dr manual with MDI and mats is $44880 drive away.
I've seen a few advertised on carsales.com.au recently at discounted prices. I'm only going by the options I can visually see on the pic's attached to the advertisements, but if they are the same as what is being sold then there are some real discounts out there.
- 5 Door
- Metallic paint
- DSG
- Sat nav
*Advertised in WA for $48K drive away (works out to be $51,530 on coreying's spreadsheet, a saving of $3,530)
- 5 Door
- Metallic paint
- DSG
- Sat nav
- Sunroof
- Leather seats
*Advertised in QLD for $49,600 drive away (works out to be $56,990 on coreying's spreadsheet, a saving of $7390 - surely this one can't be right?)
Yes, I know some aspects will vary as coreying's spreadsheet is based on NSW, but it is still a good guide to go by and shows that discounts are being offerred before negotiating has even begun (that is of course if the pic's shown in the advertisements are the actual cars being sold).
That one in WA doesn't say anything about Sat nav - the head unit in the pictures is probably the standard RCD510 system... if so $48k is probably around RRP?
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