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  • #46
    Cool, thnx
    MY08 Blue Graphite GT TSI DSG

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    • #47
      my ears heard correctly

      All,

      apologies for the HUGE delay. after much anticipation i can confirm, that firstly i did hear correctly but secondly, as many here have said... the increase is actually 100HP!

      basically the mods were as previously stated: high flow fuel injectors, chip and exhaust to yeild an additional 100HP still not a bad increase but i'll admit that my information was incorrect.

      i guess i got a bit too and should have confirmed the info before posting. Anyways, hopefully i'll get to see the car in the near future and i'll all too happily post my findings.

      thanks all for your patience
      '81 Sigma| Sports Steering Wheel| Rust
      '95 Excel| 2.25" Exhaust with Hot Dog muffler
      '09 GOLF GT TSI 1.4| Leather | Sunroof | Tints

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Fanaki View Post
        All,

        apologies for the HUGE delay. after much anticipation i can confirm, that firstly i did hear correctly but secondly, as many here have said... the increase is actually 100HP!

        basically the mods were as previously stated: high flow fuel injectors, chip and exhaust to yeild an additional 100HP still not a bad increase but i'll admit that my information was incorrect.

        i guess i got a bit too and should have confirmed the info before posting. Anyways, hopefully i'll get to see the car in the near future and i'll all too happily post my findings.

        thanks all for your patience
        That’s a larger increase than you would get from a GTI with similar mods - I still have my doubts.

        230 - 240hp should be achievable. 270hp probably not on the stock blowers
        (ABT claim 210hp with a chip, Oettinger 205)

        Throwing all that money on a 1.4 GT would also cost similar money to a GTI with a chip that will get an easy 250hp anyway.

        (Might be more of a price difference between the two engines with the Mk6 so could make more sense there)
        2021 Passat 206TSI

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        • #49
          Originally posted by smoothcall View Post
          That’s a larger increase than you would get from a GTI with similar mods - I still have my doubts.

          230 - 240hp should be achievable. 270hp probably not on the stock blowers
          (ABT claim 210hp with a chip, Oettinger 205)

          Throwing all that money on a 1.4 GT would also cost similar money to a GTI with a chip that will get an easy 250hp anyway.

          (Might be more of a price difference between the two engines with the Mk6 so could make more sense there)
          yeh apparently the 1.4L runs VERY lean and therefore has plenty of potential to extract some serious kW's. whether the increase in HP is sustainable and good for the long term durability of the engine is another issue altogether.

          at the end of the day the claimed 100hp extra is a rough estimate until i see a dyno chart to back it up. but here's hoping
          '81 Sigma| Sports Steering Wheel| Rust
          '95 Excel| 2.25" Exhaust with Hot Dog muffler
          '09 GOLF GT TSI 1.4| Leather | Sunroof | Tints

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Fanaki View Post
            yeh apparently the 1.4L runs VERY lean and therefore has plenty of potential to extract some serious kW's.
            ... which is perhaps unexpected, given the 1.4L already is about the highest power-output-per-litre-displacement of any production engine

            TG
            (formerly TSI GUY)
            First car: 1972 White Super Bug S
            First Golf: MY08 Candy White Golf GT Sport TSI DSG
            Now: MY13 Candy White Golf VI 2.0 TDI DSG (yes, I've come over to 'the dark side'...)

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            • #51
              An exhaust + injectors + tune for same price as oettinger tune $2500 would actually be good value!

              All Oettinger need to do is put the crack pipe down and give the tune for a reasonable $1000 and then $1500 for exhaust and injectors.

              They still have not posted before and after dyno sheets of a customer car and as far as I know, not even 1 1.4TSI has been flashed apart from the test car.

              Has anyone bought the oettinger tune!??!? EPIC FAIL!
              Last edited by POLARBEAR666; 25-05-2009, 09:14 PM.
              *Disclaimer - Don't rely on me, seek your own professional advice. Audi R8 E-tron. 230kw 4500nm! (not a typo).
              Economy at 100kph =5.5L

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              • #52
                Polar,

                Sorry you don't like the Oettinger price - Yes people are running the software & its done with the new Oettinger tool (MED17.5 ECU's). The price includes their warranty (which may not be your choice, but lot's of people like this option).

                Unfortunately we do not get price reductions because we are in Australia (and people cry over it on the forums). Plenty of people get flashed with Oettinger software every week, in just about every state of Australia.

                Old story - don't like the price - don't buy the product!
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
                  Plenty of people get flashed with Oettinger software every week, in just about every state of Australia.
                  Haha, the first time I read that I read the word flashed as fleeced. A re-read was in order, I knew I had to be mistaken!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
                    Polar,

                    Sorry you don't like the Oettinger price - Yes people are running the software & its done with the new Oettinger tool (MED17.5 ECU's). The price includes their warranty (which may not be your choice, but lot's of people like this option).

                    Unfortunately we do not get price reductions because we are in Australia (and people cry over it on the forums). Plenty of people get flashed with Oettinger software every week, in just about every state of Australia.

                    Old story - don't like the price - don't buy the product!
                    Where are they then? How come they are not on the forum posting their impressions, dyno sheets etc. You don't state that people are running 1.4TSI software. I don't think you can say that many people have oettinger tunes if all you are talking about is GTI's. I am more than happy to be corrected but as it stands you still have not provided before after dyno sheets or any evidence of anything. A/F ratio plots, boost plots etc. Also the warranty is worthless, you have to PROVE that it was the ECU that caused the problem and how is anyone going to do that.

                    I think your just fibbing that you have sold some. Prove me wrong!
                    Last edited by POLARBEAR666; 26-05-2009, 11:04 AM.
                    *Disclaimer - Don't rely on me, seek your own professional advice. Audi R8 E-tron. 230kw 4500nm! (not a typo).
                    Economy at 100kph =5.5L

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                    • #55
                      Come for a visit to our office - you might be surprised!

                      We guess they have sold about 3100 - 3400 1.4 TSI's in Australia. (from all the sales figures we have been given)

                      From what I gather there are about 5 owners on this forum? (correct me, I could be wrong, there may be a heap more?)
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                      • #56
                        Love to visit the office... if only brisvegas wasn't on the other side of the planet.

                        Guy, If APR owns oettinger is there any chance APR will be releasing the Oettinger tune but without the warranty and therefore $500 cheaper??!!
                        *Disclaimer - Don't rely on me, seek your own professional advice. Audi R8 E-tron. 230kw 4500nm! (not a typo).
                        Economy at 100kph =5.5L

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                        • #57
                          Keep an eye out shortly for the APR tune - I think it will be much more up your alley - a few more features & functions - test pipe files, stage 2 exhaust files, race gas, left foot braking enable It won't have the Oettinger NSA warranty, so it will be less cost!
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                          • #58
                            P.S. - where are you located?
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                            • #59
                              i looked at the Oettinger for my TDi.. though the bluefin at $720AUS delivered was too good to pass.. Not to mention i am free to flash and reflash as i see fit..

                              And i get to see and dismiss fault codes too..
                              2005 MkV Golf 2.0TDi 103 - DSG - Heated Leather - Tint - Audi 17" - Lowered - Bluefin Tune.
                              2016 MkVII Golf 2.0TDi 110 - Wagon. Fully Optioned. Lowered on Eibachs. RS3 Black 18s. Mk8 Head Unit. VCDS Tweaks - Bluefin Tune

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                              • #60
                                before this gets ugly

                                if i may para phrase polar, guy. i think what polar was originally getting at was, how many 1.4L TSI's have you sold an upgrade to and do you have any dyno charts to show the power/ torque increases from these clients?

                                do you have any client reviews that you may be able to refer us to?

                                cost aside , i'm interested in the real world feedback from other TSI'ers who have experience with an upgrade.

                                just my 2c
                                '81 Sigma| Sports Steering Wheel| Rust
                                '95 Excel| 2.25" Exhaust with Hot Dog muffler
                                '09 GOLF GT TSI 1.4| Leather | Sunroof | Tints

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