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    When I leave the car and take the key out both fans start.
    If I put the key back in both fans turn off.

    The car can't be hot as it's a short trip and it's bloody cold outside.

    Help.
    Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
    Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

  • #2
    Oddly enough when I opened the door and took my car charger out the fans turned off.
    But I have noticed lately that the fans seemed to be running longer than usual after turning the car off.
    Could it be just the charger I bought causing something? It only just started happening recently.
    Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
    Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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    • #3
      So still have this weird problem. Some kind of franken-fans.
      Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
      Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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      • #4
        They do turn off after a while, just odd why they even turn on in the first place even on such cold nights.
        Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
        Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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        • #5
          After 10 minutes they turn off, do I have a faulty sensor somewhere?
          Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
          Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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          • #6
            Replaced the 5A fuse that is part of the fan relay module because it was blown. No change.
            Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
            Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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            • #7
              I had lots of fan issues with my VR6, I would mostly get high speed (and not the lower speed) and always had the thermo fans run after shut off, even though I didn't think they were needed.

              After much screwing around I had a manual switch put in so I could turn them off:


              Then I had AC issues and after a rebuilt compressor and a few new parts (receiver dryer and AC pressure switch) my thermo fan issues stopped.


              Taken from that thread:
              Originally posted by The_Hawk View Post
              I stumbled across this info on another forum and emailed it to myself today, but forgot the link. Will update when I find it again.

              In short it says that thermo fans staying on can be because of the pressure switch on the AC. Since my system currently has no gas in it, it may very well be that when it does the switch is causing my high speed to stay on... We will see very soon.

              In response to "Why are my thermo fans always on"
              For me, this turned out to be the AC pressure switch. It's located just below the AC Drier on the passenger side of the car, just under the front bumper. Mine was cracked and needed replacing. Once I did that, all was good again. You can remove the switch without discharging the AC system, so you may want to take it out and look to see if yours is damaged. If not, I'd say it could still be that because I epoxied mine and it didn't help. One other thing it could be is the thermostat...but I'm not sure on that one. Check the switch first, as it's easy to get to. If you have a Bentley, its on page 87-14. L8z

              There are a bunch of sensors which can impact the fans (there are 3 or 4 temp sensors on that engine!) good luck!


              (on a side note... Bitcoin???)
              Last edited by The_Hawk; 15-05-2015, 02:24 PM.

              If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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              • #8
                Thanks Hawk,
                I'll check the sensors since that looks easiest to do and a sensor probably isn't too much.
                It's little inconvenient when I park my car and the fans are roaring for 10 minutes. Can be heard from inside the house...

                yeah, Bitcoin. I have a small solar array I built as a project and it's connected to some gear that generates Bitcoin that I then use on an EFTPOS card.
                The address there is a donation kind of thing.
                Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
                Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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                • #9
                  It' taking me back a few year for those sensors, the ones one the rad and crack pipe you can change pretty easily, but remember that you're very likely to loose coolant in the process, so if you were ever thinking of a full flush, now's the time!

                  As for the AC sensor (which was my issue), I don't recall if that can come off while the gas system is under pressure or not. Mine was done *while* I was having half the system replaced so it wasn't an issue either way.


                  As for the bitcoin, Solar + bitcoin generator sounds interesting. Dedicated ASIC unit ticking away? Does it yield very much?
                  I played with bitcoin a little bit, but that was a long time ago now when GPU mining was still worth while.

                  If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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                  • #10
                    Plugging out the blue sensor makes no difference.
                    Taking out the 20A control module fuse while the fans are running turns them off and when the fuse is plugged back in they stay off.

                    Not much, maybe a few dollars a month. Getting lots of batteries from faulty UPSes (taking the good ones) so making a big battery bank.
                    Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
                    Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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                    • #11
                      There is a sensor on the radiator which has 3 wires . One is supply the other 2 send signals back to the fan ecu . You can start there , the 3 sensors in the thermostat housing I think only 1 has the power to activate the fan when it reaches 120 or so and it activates the super high speed fan .
                      Bug_racer supports the rebellion of the euro revolution

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bug_racer View Post
                        There is a sensor on the radiator which has 3 wires . One is supply the other 2 send signals back to the fan ecu . You can start there , the 3 sensors in the thermostat housing I think only 1 has the power to activate the fan when it reaches 120 or so and it activates the super high speed fan .
                        Is that the one under the silver cyclinder canister thingy? I unplugged it and nothing changed if that helps.
                        Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
                        Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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                        • #13
                          Its screwed into the radiator , its just above the lower coolant hose
                          Bug_racer supports the rebellion of the euro revolution

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                          • #14
                            I've got it, but not sure if taking it out will cause coolant to leak out.
                            Would the blown fuse have anything to do with it?
                            Which sensor should I replace first? And where can I get one.
                            Last edited by stefcio007; 15-05-2015, 05:53 PM.
                            Past - '95 VW Golf MK3 VR6
                            Present - '11 Ford Focus LW Diesel (PSA DW10C)

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                            • #15
                              mine did odd things like this also.
                              Solved mine by tidying wiring and replacing just about every sensor in that department.
                              Sorry, cant be of more help
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                              MKIV GSW TDI
                              7P Touareg TDI

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