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  • boring heads??

    was thinking about performance the other day and boring the heads came into mind...kinda new to dubs and their limits and was wondering if anyone knew if a 2.8L vr6 could be bored to maybe a 3L??? is this possible??
    CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
    PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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    you bore the block to increase displacement, not the head. But yeah, you can bore the vr6 block to as big as like 3.1L I believe, you then need bigger pistions and such, and unless you have a really heavily built engine the gains arent really worth it from what I've read. Porting the head and getting bigger valves and such to make it flow nicely gets some nice gains on a vr though supposedly, especially when combined with cams and exhaust and all that
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    • #3
      yeah that one ha ha. do you know or know where i could find info on the gains n stuff of porting etc sortofbigbj? like any links or?

      cheers,

      simon.
      CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
      PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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      • #4
        dont worry, found some good info. thanks for the help though.
        CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
        PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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        • #5
          Originally posted by browndizzle View Post
          dont worry, found some good info. thanks for the help though.
          Got some links for us to have a look at??

          If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by The_Hawk View Post
            Got some links for us to have a look at??
            well to sum it up for you, a port n polish will get you around 13-16hp...like boring the block, in terms of "worth it", the power/$$$ isnt grreat at all unless you want to squeeze every last hp out of the n/a motor. i guess with everything done e.g. porting, boring, cam n exhaust etc you'll find a good response in power but yeah. ive come to the conclusion im gonna leave it and just go ahead with putting my peloquin in...now THATS a bang for your buck mod!!! haha
            CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
            PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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            • #7
              take a search on the vortex in the 12v 2.8L section for porting, boring, head work etc, theres a lot in there. this link is pretty general but amazing if you havent rread it VWVortex.com - How to build a relatively inexpensive, reliable, powerful Vr6..
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              • #8
                Originally posted by sortofbigbj View Post
                take a search on the vortex in the 12v 2.8L section for porting, boring, head work etc, theres a lot in there. this link is pretty general but amazing if you havent rread it VWVortex.com - How to build a relatively inexpensive, reliable, powerful Vr6..
                thats a very good read i must say
                CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
                PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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                • #9
                  Ive had larger pistons fitted and the actually opening up of the bores took a really long time!! No-one really has the jigs here to machine out a 15 degree V6.
                  As for power gain, spend the money on a 24V conversions, better bang for buck
                  Euro Revolution - eurorevolution@live.com.au
                  Importing Quality Performance and Spare parts for Audi & Watercooled VW's
                  New website almost up and running ... http://eurorevolution.webs.com/index.htm
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                  • #10
                    Ive had larger pistons fitted and the actually opening up of the bores took a really long time!! No-one really has the jigs here to machine out a 15 degree V6.
                    As for power gain, spend the money on a 24V conversions, better bang for buck
                    Euro Revolution - eurorevolution@live.com.au
                    Importing Quality Performance and Spare parts for Audi & Watercooled VW's
                    New website almost up and running ... http://eurorevolution.webs.com/index.htm
                    Courtney

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                    • #11
                      in that thread linked above, when the guy talks about the 2.9 manifold and he talks about the problem with the 6th cylinder closest to the driver and slight affect on the 5th with flow and restriction...is that concerning the euro 2.9 or our 2.8's?
                      CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
                      PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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                      • #12
                        I'd say it would be common in both engines.
                        Unless the 2.9 Corrado throttle body lets in "THAT" much more air flow/velocity to compensate for it?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by whiteVR6 View Post
                          Ive had larger pistons fitted and the actually opening up of the bores took a really long time!! No-one really has the jigs here to machine out a 15 degree V6.
                          As for power gain, spend the money on a 24V conversions, better bang for buck
                          this conversion...do you know what exactly has to go into it or? power gains n costs? sounds very interesting
                          CURRENT: '76 MK1 Golf 2dr (1.8 8V, twin webers.. soon to be 16v )
                          PAST: MK5 GTI Pirelli + MK4 Golf 1.sick + MK3 VR6 (RIP)

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                          • #14
                            She knows exactly whats involved

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by browndizzle View Post
                              in that thread linked above, when the guy talks about the 2.9 manifold and he talks about the problem with the 6th cylinder closest to the driver and slight affect on the 5th with flow and restriction...is that concerning the euro 2.9 or our 2.8's?
                              its talking about the 2.9 i think, as the stock 2.8 manifolds dont have the "kink" that is then there when you cut them up. im 90% through making my own 2.9 clone, just need it welded back up now, just been too lazy to call around and find someone to do it. Kinda hard to explain what he means without pics and such, and im feeling lazy, but what he is talking about is the little narrow bit on the side where the oil filling cap thing is flowing into cylinder 6
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