8v vs 16v

[runamuk]

It was up my a.e for most of the drive to Northam... the fact that it was lighter meant he was going just that little bit faster around corners too...

*calls out to Runamuk* OI!

Somehow I don't think he'll hear me from NSW...

[Golf Houso]

In a mk3 an 8v just isnt as fun to drive as a 16v full stop.

Bah biased anti - 8v person Is yours running yet btw?

Just slam in a 1.8t wouldn't cost alot more than a fan dangle 16v either...

[Jarred]

Bah biased anti - 8v person Is yours running yet btw?

Just slam in a 1.8t wouldn't cost alot more than a fan dangle 16v either...

wouldn't cost my more than a really really really fandangle 16V...

On a BFYB scale, 16V doesn't add up for me. a 1K premium for like 10 HP? no thanks.

In an all out tuning battle 16V wins hands down, because, it's more tuneable, because it's a 16V

[Mrk_Mickey]

It was up my a.e for most of the drive to Northam... the fact that it was lighter meant he was going just that little bit faster around corners too...

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Still, nowhere near as SEXYTAIIME sound as a VR. Hehehe

[Valver.]

Well then you have missed a cog mate

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[Valver.]

Can your 16v start off in 3rd ?

A 16v has more torque than an 8v from idle (quite significantly in fact!!)...

[velly_16v_cab]

A 16v has more torque than an 8v from idle (quite significantly in fact!!)...

i was saving that one for later lol

[jayjay]

so then which is the best 16v? i mean all things considered, ie. including mild headwork and a mild road cam. also, is it possible to mechanically turbocharge k-jet?

[Mrk_Mickey]

The best one is in the lightest car

[gtimk5]

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Sorted that one out, A 16v only has one sprocket as somone thought otherwise.
All good and not a lot of difference pricewise to replace a cambelt as I originally stated. Only difference would be the price of the belt. Neglible, and they run the GLD belt tensioner on all the earlier twin cams.
Cheers, Andrew

[Golf Loon]

Just slam in a 1.8t wouldn't cost alot more than a fan dangle 16v either...

You are an idiot if you believe this.

The 20VT engines are more to buy and will need a $2500 minimum aftermarket computer to run.
If you got an ABF 16v and loom and ecu, its plug and play into a Mk3 and would cost less than half.
You wouldnt go as fast as a 20V, but you would spend a lot less.

Perhaps if you spent less time on the net and more time having experience with cars, you might know what you are talking about.

[Bug_racer]

I picked up a whole mk4 gti wreck over 2years ago for $5k . Im sure you could get one for less today . You dont need to run an aftermarket computer , you can use the standard wiring harness , if its a mk1 or 2 it would make sense to swap the gearbox as well and also the dash .
A 16V maybe cheaper , but reality is , these are old engines now , and the price to install a 16V to get that 110 or so KW you could modify the 8V , and if you want power your better off doing the 1.8t conversion .

Thats my 2c

[Jarred]

so then which is the best 16v? i mean all things considered, ie. including mild headwork and a mild road cam. also, is it possible to mechanically turbocharge k-jet?

It's possible, but you need the K-jet off a porsche 933 era 911 turbo to do it. Practically, it'd be cheaper to go aftermarket and probably more beneficial too, something like a Mircotech LXT8 should do the trick.

[aliasmk2]

It's possible, but you need the K-jet off a porsche 933 era 911 turbo to do it. Practically, it'd be cheaper to go aftermarket and possibly more beneficial too, something like a Mircotech LXT8 should do the trick.

SAAB is another company that used k-basic 0n turbo motors, only until they could come up with something better
Its only viable to keep k-jet running on 2nd parts (all at least 20 yrs old), as it costs around $1500 to reco a system & a lot more using new parts if you can still get them

[jayjay]

how about volvo? you know peter jones' set up with his DIY cold air intake? apparently he used a volvo airbox, and theoretically, couldn't i run a turbo without a computer?

or am i just talking out of my ass? thanks for input though guys