Provent / catchcan fitment kits.

[Gigitt]

Flickr is crap for posting pics onto forums... use Photobucket.

I bought my Provent then fitted it... It is so much easier to put the provent into location and then you can see what works and not for routing the pipe work.

I pretty sure that position behind the drivers headlight will NOT work as the diesel filter is in the way.

Also the filter may not seem tall... but when you add a 3cm elbow to the bottom to redirect the colected oil... it adds to the overall height of the unit.

Note that routing any tubing around the back of the engine cover you must be careful as that is where all the turbo exhaust outlet/Dump pipe goes and if you have a 125TDI the DPF - and it gets hot back there.

[sn809]

Hmm. Ok. Have ordered Provent tonight. I will try and see what works once I have it in my hands. Will get the tubes etc once position is decided. I am surprised at how limited photos are there with regards to the passat and any CCV filter installation. Most of them are pre 2004 on the net lol. All the new ones are for golf TDIs.

[Greg Roles]

I will work on that, am overdue to do a proper Provent install article.

Golf TDI and Jetta / Passat TDI all virtually identical, Passat has the GT TDI / GTD engine in the TDI version, so the layout / space should be the same.

Gig is onto it, no way you could fit a Provent on the drivers side with a lot of relocation work.

[sn809]

Thanks Greg and Gig. Took your advice and have thought of a different plan.

Has any one thought about moving the Air hose by twisting it to the right. It will make the pipe face towards the battery and move it to a horizontal location.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/klcMZjt2LUcy3bCVUH7rwDgbvmkCSENGUnTZ_mXtLH8?feat=directlink

Position of my provent

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/A8lBEnc5Hx-66SyQ998MQDgbvmkCSENGUnTZ_mXtLH8?feat=directlink

An opening I am thinking of using for the drain, but is it going to hamper the joint??

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Eoasx4hPUUmWn2c4Q6PdoDgbvmkCSENGUnTZ_mXtLH8?feat=directlink

Bolt I am thinking of using to secure a plate and also intend to use a tie.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cCPbeWKBnEPdI6IUu7wJgjgbvmkCSENGUnTZ_mXtLH8?feat=directlink

I know it is a low pressure system so not bothered about that but the temperatures in the surrounding and for the gasses it self is a bit of worry for me as I am going to do a fair bit of highway travel and want to do this install before I go.

What temp range is to be expected inside the system and out side as well.
The Ryco Defiant would be a very good hose to use as it is very flexible thin but reinforced enough not to collapse, as per their website

Tube:
Black, oil resistant synthetic rubber. (Nitrile).
Reinforcement:
Textile reinforcement with spiral wire to prevent collapsing.
Cover:
Black, oil resistant and abrasion resistant synthetic rubber.
Temperature Range:
From -40°C to +100°C (-40°F to +212°F).

And that is where the problem lies I am sure the temp is going to be a lot higher.

http://www.ryco.com.au/pdf/bulletins/srf/en/RH-PIB0707.pdf

[jazd]

I bought some of this gear for mine, still waiting on it. Also nitrile and only to 100deg. I don't think that is a problem, shouldn't be that hot.
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but I wanted black nitrile.

I bought some clear vinyl tube and a irrigation tap from bunnings for the drain as well as SS clamps for the main tubing.

[sn809]

The ID is 25 mm for the tube you selected isnt the ID for provent 20mm.

There are a few more tubes I have looked at will get in touch and see if they do retail. Not wanting yo go with silicone till I get some specifically designed for temps and oil as there is degradation of normal silicone with the byproducts going into the engine.

How many bends will you have in your installation?
Keep me updated. I would like to know when you get the items.

How much did the clamp and tubing from bunning cost I intend to do the same. Did you have a look at the 3rd photo what do you think about the drain opening.

[Gigitt]

sb809,

you will not be able to mount the Provent as in pic 3 from that bracket.
the bracket is light weight and will be bend, or be ripped off the fire wall... I also considered this position and it just will not work.
You also have the ABS unit below and you cannot have the provent touching the brake lines as it could damage them through vibrational wear/rubbing.

There is really only 2 places to mount the provent in a stock engine bay:
In front of the engine between the radiator, Oil FIlter and air intake
OR
where I mounted mine.

The only other option for an Easy install is to get yourself a new Air Intake - Like an APR Carbonio or ModShack, VWR, BMC type... Then you will have stacks of room

Seriouly wait till you have the provent in your hands. then start sticking into places and see if it will fit and if you can route the hoses.

[sn809]

Thanks Gigs. What about turning the hose clockwise to face right. Do you think its doable??

[Gigitt]

If you mean the 4in ain intake pipe that connects to turbo flange...
I think not. It is reallly not that flexible so the angles would be all wrong to connext back up.

The 1in metal pipe comming from behind the engine under the air intake is actually the EGR pipe from the exhaust (Post EGR Cooler)

[jazd]

The ID is 25 mm for the tube you selected isnt the ID for provent 20mm.

No 25mm.

How many bends will you have in your installation?

None hopefully. If the tube is too stiff then I'll put some in.

How much did the clamp and tubing from bunning cost I intend to do the same.

Tap less than $5, clamps around a dollar each.

Did you have a look at the 3rd photo what do you think about the drain opening.

Got no idea where I am looking at there mate, just put it wherever you reckon.

PS put it where Gigitt has his.

[PranK]

I'm going to either put it where Gigitt has his, but because I have a tapped drain hose off the bottom, I'd like it to be somewhere more accessible. I think that with the right mount, I can mount it over/in front of my Oil Filter with little drama, it'd be cooler there and I'd be able to drain it easier.

[sn809]

Wow, compared to the photos this thing is huge Now I understand what you guys mean lol. I dont think I can find space in the front for this, I dont want to invest in a modified air intake at the moment either as I cannot afford it and to be honest have not looked into it at all. For all I know I may have to get the EGR valve cleaned or something due to the gunk already collected. So I have decided to follow Gigitt's plan but I cannot find a T plate or something similar does any one know where I can get it from. I know you did a DIY job but what have others used?


Also from what I can see in the photos, the drain is actually higher than the Provent?? Does that not cause a backup of fluid in the provent.

[Gigitt]

Wow, compared to the photos this thing is huge Now I understand what you guys mean lol. I dont think I can find space in the front for this, I dont want to invest in a modified air intake at the moment either as I cannot afford it and to be honest have not looked into it at all. For all I know I may have to get the EGR valve cleaned or something due to the gunk already collected. So I have decided to follow Gigitt's plan but I cannot find a T plate or something similar does any one know where I can get it from. I know you did a DIY job but what have others used?


Also from what I can see in the photos, the drain is actually higher than the Provent?? Does that not cause a backup of fluid in the provent.

My Tap is higher... but the oil collects in the tube which is lower than the provent. The Tap is just to make it a closed system - Like I said I stick a Pella Oil extracting tube into the tap and it goes down like 30-40cm before it hits the collected oil.

You could route the tubing back down the firewall behind the gearbox and tie the tap up - but you will have to get under the car a bit to drain it - which I did not want to do - thats why I bought a Pella to do my Mk3 TDI Golf - but thats another thread and it does not suck the last 1lt on a Mk5

[sn809]

Crap. I need a power source for the battery apparently while I mess around with the Privent install

[PranK]

Crap. I need a power source for the battery apparently while I mess around with the Privent install

Hmmm, I was wondering about this also. Got a link for more info?