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  • #31
    Originally posted by Timmy35851 View Post
    Just came across this thread - well done so far!
    Not sure if you have seen, but check out Eurospec Automotion Facebook page which is here in Perth. Phil (shop owner) has a crazy Up!
    Wow that is a crazy Up!

    Looks like a 1.8T 20V from a Mk4 Golf/Polo GTI. I have heard that these will fit into the very limited space available. Might have to have a chat to him at some point.

    At the moment, I'll stick with the 1.0 with the turbo. Will slowly ramp that up as I discover the limits on the drivetrain.

    BUT ... would love to do that. Planted a seed ....
    Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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    • #32
      Some progress on the turbo today ....

      The stock 1.0TSI turbo which we have confirmed will bolt up like OEM to the Up! engine, have an electronic wastegate which will not work for this conversion (since an Australian Up!'s ECU cannot control that wastegate).

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      So, an aftermarket adjustable MAMBA wastegate was sourced and we fabricated a bracket to fit it to the little turbo. This wastegate will control what boost the little Up! will be subject to. Also fitted a TIP from Racingline.

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      Last edited by Sharkie; 13-01-2022, 01:39 PM.
      Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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      • #33
        Looking good. Even though it's small, I reckon the Up! really needs a turbo to be good.

        If it has an engine or heartbeat it's going to cost you.

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        • #34
          Since this is to be more an "old-school" type turbo conversion, where crucial real-time information is required, such as boost, AFR and oil-pressure, I wanted to fit a bank of gauges. Was thinking something similar to what a MK1 Golf GTI had ....

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          Tried a generic cheapie bracket off eBay 1st, did not like how it looked.

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          Then decided to fabricate something almost exactly like the MK1 in this bit of wasted space

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          It was a bit of a process going back and forth to get it fitting correctly ...

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          And painted (still want to carbonwrap this) with the correct gauges

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          Last edited by Sharkie; 15-01-2022, 04:48 PM.
          Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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          • #35
            Have you seen the new MightyCarMods project car?

            2017 Ford Fiesta ST the go kart

            2015 Audi SQ5 bi-turbo V6 TDI family hauler

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lucas_R View Post
              Have you seen the new MightyCarMods project car?

              That is pretty cool, I'll need to check in on it periodically to see their progress. I'm a little further down the road than them, but really good to see some of my decisions validated.
              Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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              • #37
                Finished off the gauges this weekend, decided on SaaS for all of them in the end as I like how they looked. Did the basic (no-functional) wiring too to get them turning on and fed the sensor wires/tubes to the front. Need to complete that off the next few weekends.

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                Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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                • #38
                  Between other things happening, had a tiny bit of time to start planning the actual turbo fitment.

                  I bought an entire spare engine and gearbox to make this easier .... plus it means I have spares in case we blow something up

                  Simple vacuum tap (common from aftermarket diverter valves) fitted to provide the wastegate and the piggyback ECU with manifold pressure.

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                  Simple piping from the turbo to the throttlebody for the 1st few PSI of boost. Not going to run an intercooler immediately (already have 1 ready), I just want to run it at low boost for a bit to settle everything including the piggyback.

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                  And playing with the oil and water feed piping routing with the turbo attached.

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                  Need to modify the OEM feed pipes on the oil feed side, but looks OK.

                  And finally need to make a bracket to fix the downpipe to the block but that will happen soon. Looks like lot of work to go, but as there things go, near the end a lot can come together very quickly if you planned it all out .... I hope
                  Last edited by Sharkie; 07-03-2022, 02:54 PM.
                  Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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                  • #39
                    looks fun. if u ever have trouble getting that plastidip off the rims which can happen espeically on the difficult parts of the rim... u gotta soak the plastidip with a turps* and a rag.. pretty heavily and itll start to melt / wipe off with some elbow grease

                    Correction*... U need kerosene not Turps.. got mixed up
                    Last edited by amunra; 01-06-2022, 02:23 PM.

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                    • #40
                      hi sharkie.

                      where did you get the auto headlight set up from?

                      just did a quick google and cant find it.

                      hows it sound running the miltek system on it?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by kristianvanek View Post
                        hi sharkie.

                        where did you get the auto headlight set up from?

                        just did a quick google and cant find it.

                        hows it sound running the miltek system on it?
                        The headlight switch is the same as a MK4 Golf, I just got it off Ebay.
                        For VW Golf Mk4 Passat B5 Polo Lavida AUTO Headlight Switch Light Sensor Module | eBay

                        Miltek sounds awesome, I really should take video of it.
                        Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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                        • #42
                          Have you had much head way with the cruise control upgrade?

                          I am currently upgrading the stereo and doing some sound deadening in mine and want to do the cruise control retrofit. I can only find eurocar upgrades that have a kit but it's only the combo stick and the bcm.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by kristianvanek View Post
                            Have you had much head way with the cruise control upgrade?

                            I am currently upgrading the stereo and doing some sound deadening in mine and want to do the cruise control retrofit. I can only find eurocar upgrades that have a kit but it's only the combo stick and the bcm.
                            If you’ve got a VW Scanning tool (VCDS, OBD11), you can check the version of you BCM.

                            Mines a 1S0937090D which means it supports cruise control already.

                            Have yet to hear back from Eurocar Upgrades on wether they do a stalk only option, otherwise kufatec do one :
                            Cruise control retrofit for VW up!
                            2004 MK4 R32 - Reflex Silver - KW V3 - AdvanSport V105 - Colour Matched RCN210
                            2012 up! 3Door - Tornado Red - More details soon…

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by greyhamism View Post
                              If you’ve got a VW Scanning tool (VCDS, OBD11), you can check the version of you BCM.

                              Mines a 1S0937090D which means it supports cruise control already.

                              Have yet to hear back from Eurocar Upgrades on wether they do a stalk only option, otherwise kufatec do one :
                              Cruise control retrofit for VW up!
                              Just posted on your other post. Yeah you are luck with the bcm. I had to do a swap and ran in to a few issues with the retrofit but in the end with sharkies help to code I have it in my up and working.

                              Your best to grab the kufatec kit if you do it as it also give you the multifunction dash information to and the wiring is already pre done to install you only need to extend 1 wire to the ecu. The information for making the wiring is hard to find online these days cause all the guys in the UK have moved on from these to the up gti.

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                              • #45
                                Oil Cooler

                                As preparation for the turbo (which needs an oil feed), I needed to source an oil feed and decided to double that up with an oil cooler to keep the turbo and engine cooler. Finally had an open weekend and got going with that

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                                Turns out there is no space for a FMIC, but there is a bit of space for an oil cooler; relatively easy to make brackets and fit.

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                                The stock bumper has blackouts in spaces where I need airflow through, so opened them up.

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                                And sandwich for the feeds installed and pipework completed.

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                                Oil change done and no leaks (detected so far) after running the engine for a bit.
                                Last edited by Sharkie; 26-09-2022, 09:30 AM.
                                Current: 2023 MY23 T-Roc R Lapiz Blue + Beats Audio + Black pack 2018 MY19 Golf R manual Lapiz Blue + DAP) 2018 MY18 Golf 110TSI (150TSI) Trendline manual White2014 Amarok TSI Red (tuned over 200kw + lots of extras) 2013 Up! manual Red 2017 Polo GTI manual Black Previous VWs and some others ...
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