Discover Media retrofit

[InsaneDad]

Make sure voice enhancer is turned off.
I have Dynaudio and don't have any echo issues.

I read in this thread that you were keeping kits available for retrofit. Do you still keep these?

I just purchased a 2011 118TSI Passat & the bluetooth unit isnt working. I want to do a full upgrade anyway to the Discover Media system.

[passiw]

found only this info
DynAdio menu works with 3AA035466B Multivan software | parameterization

I looked into the 3AA035466B amp and it seems to identify as "KonzernAmp12K", which would mean it has 12 channels. However, I cant find a single wiring diagram that actually shows that there are 12 speakers connected to it. Could anyone enlighten me?

[kamold]

Yes factory mic from RNS510 days.

[MIG]

It's not AndroidAuto, going to test with another phone before I try any more drastic fixes.

Was your mic the stock unit that used to be paired with the RNS and split to the Bluetooth module?

[MIG]

Oh, I think it's an AndroidAuto issue, will test and confirm.

[kamold]

Make sure voice enhancer is turned off.
I have Dynaudio and don't have any echo issues.

[MIG]

Does anyone with the DM retrofit and Dynaudio have any issues with the original microphone and echos in calls?

I am having a problem where the other end of my phone calls can hear themselves back thought my mic, I think it might be caused by the Dynaudio DSP not turning off during calls creating a delay.

I have played with the mic gain in adaptation channels, nothing seems to affect it.

Thanks,

[jmd]

So I'm using my discover media for a while now in my mk6 golf. My original unit was a rcd510 dab+. I decided to sell my rcd since its lying in the attic so I needed to hook it up once more. The problem I'm experiencing is that it won't accept any coding. I want to change the coding to non-dynaudio so it's easy transferable to another car. That's one issue, the next is that the unit will boot up, connects to the phone, responds to the steering wheel but will not make any sound. Before placing the DM, this unit worked to the very last minute and was then sent to the attic. Am I overseeing something? I reconnected the media-in and bluetooth module to the rcd like it was before. I can't remember changing any code rather than the ones in 5F. But the rcd is not in 5F, instead it's in 56. What can I try? Removing the media player and Bluetooth from the gateway installation list and re-add them? Disconnect the battery for a certain period? Did the car "forget" the unit when it was replaced?
Help appreciated.

thanks, Jos.

[awef_spb]

Afaik, the dynaudio menus in these units relied on data channel communication with a newer amplifier module, and those amplifier modules need some sort of advanced coding/parameterization to work in older cars B6/B7 in Passats or MK5/MK6 in Golfs.

I'm not 100% sure on that, but last I looked into that was about the answer I found.

found only this info

DynAdio menu works with 3AA035466B Multivan software | parameterization

and do not work with 3AA035466 / A with CC parameterization


anyone try to install custom ZR software with MQB sceen menu?

[greyhamism]

Still no solution for working DynAudio menu?

Afaik, the dynaudio menus in these units relied on data channel communication with a newer amplifier module, and those amplifier modules need some sort of advanced coding/parameterization to work in older cars B6/B7 in Passats or MK5/MK6 in Golfs.

I'm not 100% sure on that, but last I looked into that was about the answer I found.

[awef_spb]

Still no solution for working DynAudio menu?

[greyhamism]

After reading through much of this and related threads about retrofitting the RCD330 Plus, I'm left wondering what the advantage is of Discover Media over RCD330 Plus given RCD seems easier to plug and play install and then use an adaptor cable to resolve the reverse camera issue.

Thoughts?

TL;DR it depends on the level of integration you’re after, and what you’ve got currently installed.

If you’re coming from an RCD500, and RCD510 with basic bluetooth or lower/equivalent mk6 units , the RCD330’s are a good upgrade, especially for the money and features.

If you have an RNS510 with the nicer BT modules, then you lose features/RCD330’s are a downgrade in some areas.

Empirically the Discover/Composition Media units have :

• A CD Drive
• Built in GPS Navigation (Discover only)
• MFD Integration
• Native MFSW Support
• DAB Radio Support (model dependant)
• RDS Support & Station Icons
• Dual Fakra Antenna Input
• Media playback album art
• PDC display support

over the RCD330 units.

Where as the RCD330 units :

• Lack a CD Drive
• Only have Navigation through CarPlay/AndroidAuto
• No MFD Integration
• MFSW for MK6 only (MK5’s work with a Harness adaptor, but for Volume Only)
• No DAB Radio
• Single Fakra Antenna (Worse radio reception)
• No RDS or Station Art
• No media playback art
• No PDC display support

Both unit's support :

• Carplay/AndroidAuto/MirrorLink (Depending on HW/FW versions for the RCD's, and if those features have been activated on DM/CM)
• Playback of common music formats from SD/USB/AUX/iPod
• A composite video input for RVC
• Bluetooth for Phone Calls and Media Playback

Neither units (to my knowledge) support :

• DVD Playback
• Native Video Playback
• Media playback/media copy to Internal Storage (tho both accept large SD Cards)

Subjectively many people report the Discover/Composition Media as :

• sounding better,
• being a little more responsive, and
• being less prone to hardware failure.

In saying that, I have an RCD340 187B in my MK6 TDI Golf wagon (CP&AA) as well as a RCD330 187A (no CP or AA) in my MK5 TFSI Jetta.
They are great value units for getting basic Bluetooth/USB/SD music into 2005 onwards VW’s, especially with the CarPlay/AndroidAuto variants thrown into the mix.

Having 'been there and done that' with the RCD330's, I have a Discover Media DAB unit heading my way (huge shout out to kamold for the help with that one).

I’d recommend an aftermarket backup camera, as there are plug and play options out there that don’t require timer boxes or converters and camera’s have come a long way from the 10+ years that MK5/MK6’s VW’s shipped with.

[pnoake]

After reading through much of this and related threads about retrofitting the RCD330 Plus, I'm left wondering what the advantage is of Discover Media over RCD330 Plus given RCD seems easier to plug and play install and then use an adaptor cable to resolve the reverse camera issue.

Thoughts?

[greyhamism]

Thank you very much for that information, that's cleared up most of the questions I had (for now at least )


At the moment, the 5C0035680F/G models are looking like the best bet depending on whether DAB is going to be worth finding a G variant and wiring the antena.

I'd rather not fiddle around with firmware more than is required for install (CP/feature activation) if it can be avoided, having been there and done that with the Mirror link only RCD330 187 Unit in my old Jetta, and the AA/CP/ML RCD330 187B in my own TDI wagon…

[kamold]

Yes it's newer software. With DM you can upgrade from 680B/C/D/E to the same software version as 680F/G with some hacking of the firmware etc. B/D/F are non-DAB. C/E/G are with DAB.
680F/G have an APP button which is a shortcut to App Connect that otherwise requires you to press Menu and then select App connect. The newer software doesn't add functionality (apart from some very limited car menu functionality) it just has some different skins.

You don't want a 680A they don't have App Connect.
CM it's DAB or non-DAB (and of course the NAR units with Sirius)