Replacing RNS 510 with RCD 330+

[sn809]

Dark blue one is gps, white ones are antenna. Is it a high line camera with moving lines?

[zed]

Dark blue one is gps, white ones are antenna. Is it a high line camera with moving lines?

OK so don't need the blue one. Yeah it has moving lines. I'm not that bothered about moving lines.

[sn809]

OK so don't need the blue one. Yeah it has moving lines. I'm not that bothered about moving lines.

Ok, so you need to get a " VW oem reverse highline camera to RCD connector"

Euro Upgrades | Aftermarket Parts & Accessories for VW & Audi might have it as you are in Perth and would prefer to get local or ebay it.

It will then connect to the blue and yellow cable. the light blue connector going under the speakers. Please ensure you align the pins as it can go both ways.

[zed]

Ok, so you need to get a " VW oem reverse highline camera to RCD connector"

Euro Upgrades | Aftermarket Parts & Accessories for VW & Audi might have it as you are in Perth and would prefer to get local or ebay it.

It will then connect to the blue and yellow cable. the light blue connector going under the speakers. Please ensure you align the pins as it can go both ways.

Ok thanks for replying. I think I need to program the stereo though? Engaging reverse, the sensors come on, but I've been told if it had been programmed for a camera there should be a blank image if programmed and no camera. I'm not getting that.

[richmurphy]

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@Richmurphy, do you want to put in a low resistance to see if the small voltage fluctuations get ignored?

I tried using a 330 ohm resistor I had lying around. The camera didn't open. Unfortunately it didn't open when I engaged reverse either!

Obviously 330 ohm is too high - might check the current draw and work backwards. I'm actually surprised the bulb check didn't fail so I might look closer at that too.

Adding info incase it helps someone else. The seller had me rewire the supplied canbus emulator and run another wire to the back. This connection supplies +12v when reverse is engaged so I don't need to tap the reverse light now.

Only a brief test but it appears to work perfectly. Honestly don't know why they don't use this configuration normally!

[sn809]

@Richmurphy Could you post a picture. That would def help others. My camera has canbus input directly from the Canbus. The purple strip on orange background for + and Brown strip on orange background for -, position 10 and 20 (Not respectively please check which one is which). It also has moving yellow lines based on steering wheel sensor position.

VW Passat Jetta2012 Tiguan dynamic parking line handle rear view camera RCD330G | eBay

Has very good results and excellent during night as well.
I got my RCD 330 NoName from him as well.
rcd330gplus.com

YouTube

This shows his latest efforts, he has connected the USB data function to a jack in the back which leads to a usb port. It wasn't available when I got mine other wise I would have def got this one.

@Zed Yes you need to program it in the radio section of VCDS and section 10 depending on your camera and Canbus/car model.

I will come upto Perth once the borders open up for a supply run, we can see if my VCDS will work on your car no problems, I usually do day trips though. Will send you a pm the night before.
Otherwise you can get try posting in the vcds thread.

[zed]

@Richmurphy Could you post a picture. That would def help others. My camera has canbus input directly from the Canbus. The purple strip on orange background for + and Brown strip on orange background for -, position 10 and 20 (Not respectively please check which one is which). It also has moving yellow lines based on steering wheel sensor position.

VW Passat Jetta2012 Tiguan dynamic parking line handle rear view camera RCD330G | eBay

Has very good results and excellent during night as well.
I got my RCD 330 NoName from him as well.
rcd330gplus.com

YouTube

This shows his latest efforts, he has connected the USB data function to a jack in the back which leads to a usb port. It wasn't available when I got mine other wise I would have def got this one.

@Zed Yes you need to program it in the radio section of VCDS and section 10 depending on your camera and Canbus/car model.

I will come upto Perth once the borders open up for a supply run, we can see if my VCDS will work on your car no problems, I usually do day trips though. Will send you a pm the night before.
Otherwise you can get try posting in the vcds thread.

Cool cheers bud appreciate it!

[richmurphy]

@Richmurphy Could you post a picture. That would def help others. My camera has canbus input directly from the Canbus. The purple strip on orange background for + and Brown strip on orange background for -, position 10 and 20 (Not respectively please check which one is which). It also has moving yellow lines based on steering wheel sensor position.

I bought the camera from this store: For VW Emblem Logo Reverse Camera for VW Golf 5/6 Phaeton Passat B6 B7 B8 CC VW logo Back up flip Camera Night vision Guide Line|vw back camera|flip logovw flip camera - AliExpress

Mk6 with Dynamic lines into RCD330. Instructions were terrible as I mentioned before. Supplier not much better.

[Cupra]

Hi all,

I've been looking through the thread to see what people are installing currently. I have an 05 Golf V with a replacement unit that runs an old version of win ce and I'm looking to replace it. From what I can see the Android devices (330's etc) seem popular & I see the advantage of the more modern software (apps) but if I want to retain cd/dvd capability do I have to stay with a win ce powered unit? I can't seem to find an android unit with a disk player?

We have decided to keep the golf for a couple more years and the current unit fascia has gone soft and tacky and looks like crap otherwise it's still doing the job.

Thanks

Phil

[sn809]

Car Radio RCD330 MIB200F,Carplay,Android Auto,BT,CD,USB,RVC,AUX,for VW GOLF POLO | eBay

This one has CD player, please double check the Android Auto

[Cupra]

Car Radio RCD330 MIB200F,Carplay,Android Auto,BT,CD,USB,RVC,AUX,for VW GOLF POLO | eBay

This one has CD player, please double check the Android Auto

Thanks, I'll have a look.

Phil

[brane_klc]

Hi Jakeys,
did you solve brightness problem with RCD 330?

[brane_klc]

So the brightness issue has been really bothering me as the screen even on the brightest setting is basically impossible to read on sunny days where the head unit isn't in full shade. I figured it couldn't be that dim by design so I did some digging and figured out the following steps to up the brightness. I can only speak to my own car, your mileage may vary, proceed at own caution, etc.

1. You need VCDS, maybe OBDeleven or similar would also work.
2. Connect your OBS cable, open VCDS, navigate into Module 56 - Radio.
3. Go into Adaption. Change Channel to 50 and the Stored Value from 0 to 1.
4. That will enable the Engineering Testmode. It's the same as the old RSN510 service menu, so hold down SETUP for 10 seconds to get in.
5. Go to Software System > HMI Look and Feel > Brightness.
6. Untick Auto Brightness and up the brightness from 50 to 100.
7. Exit the menu, congrats, your screen is now twice as bright.

I don't know why this is the way it is, if I had to guess the Auto Brightness feature maybe uses the light and rain sensor from the newer cars to adjust brightness based on sun level, but our gateway doesn't support it so it always stays at the default medium brightness? Just a guess based on the fact auto brightness seems to do absolutely nothing.

The good news is that doing this does not affect the dimmer when the headlights are on, it still works normally, and you can also still adjust the brightness within the normal SETUP menu so there is no downside to doing this that I know of. There are other settings you can play with in the testmode but this was the only one I saw in there that I cared about.

EDIT: Back to the drawing board, having the car off for a while or resetting the unit (Hold down power for 10 seconds) puts this back to the default value. Very frustrating. Maybe need to adjust a value somewhere in VCDS.

EDIT 2: Okay I don't know if anyone else is reading these haha but I'm putting the info here anyway in case anyone else is as bothered by the dim screen as I am. I'm surprised more people aren't bothered, as far as I can tell any B6 Passat will have this problem...

So the B6 Passat and other VW cars of the same age have an older gateway (CANBUS) than what this RCD330 was designed for. It seems like maybe most features hasn't changed between our cars and the newer ones because a lot of features work fine, eg the time, temperature, dimmer switch, are compatible out of the box. Some things have changed and so don't work, eg. our steering wheel controls and as I've discovered, something to do with lighting when the parkers and headlights are off.

When the headlights are on in the older gateway cars, the screen is controlled as normal with the dashboard lighting dimmer switch, on max setting the screen is at 22% and on minimum setting the screen is at 5%. You can measure this using VCDS on one of the measuring blocks for the radio module. However the problem is when you switch the lights off, although the red lights on the buttons turn off the screen will only go back to 22%. This is the highest it can go. So it's the same brightness day or night if your dimmer is up.

In Engineering Testmode (See my grey steps above) you can manually set the screen brightness independent of the car by turning off Auto Brightness. This "disconnects" the brightness of the RCD330 from the gateway. From here you can manually set it all the way up to 100%. But because this is just a test mode it doesn't save the setting and it's also problematic because the red button lights are on forever in this mode too.

The problem is that the CANBUS simulator adapter I have which fixes the incompatible signal for the steering wheel controls doesn't do anything about the incompatible brightness signal. Supposedly there is a different CANBUS simulator that could do both but it is a bit pot luck cause they all look pretty similar. I noticed my simulator only has four wires (RWYB) and there are some others that appear to have seven wires (BYROBGW) so I might buy one of those and see if it works better.

Hi Jakeys,
did you solve the brightness problem with RCD 330?

[Jakeys]

Hi Jakeys,
did you solve the brightness problem with RCD 330?

No. I think I tried another CANBUS simulator but it was incompatible.

[senui]

My quadlock had 2 power sources, one at BAT+ and the other where ACC+ is/should be. I tapped into the ACC+ power, bingo.

The RCD330 does have a pin there also, although function is undocumented. Could probably assume it's ACC+.

Now to plug it all in and see it works before I hide all the wiring.

It's been a while, but can you remember how you solved the battery drain issue you were having? Do I understand correct that there is an undocumented ACC pin on the RCD330 that you fed an ACC wire to, to turn off the head unit when the ignition is off? If, so could you maybe recall which of the pins it is? I am having the same issue.