DNS series head unit (new generation dual core RNS-510 alternative)

[DkN]

Sandy, can you confirm this is correct?

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If it is correct the radio sound muting problem when starting is still happening and all preset stations come up point 1 to 2 less when selected.
So 102.1 shows up as 102.08, 105.3 shows as 105.28 and so on

Just wondering if anyone's GPS SD slot cover doesn't fit properly like mine?

That is the correct firmware. On mine the radio does not mute when starting anymore and I don't have your frequency issue. Can you turn RDS off, select all the stations one by one, then turn RDS back on, and see if it makes a difference?

Also how is your radio signal? Did you need the dual FAKRA adapter?

Regarding the SD slot cover, they might take a few jiggles to put back in after you pull them outwards a bit. Just focus on the bottom section and it will go in flat eventually.

Thats the same version I get after the latest firmware.

The few bugs I have noticed for the new firmware:

The parking sensor screen overlays the FM radio so you can see the car and the sensor but background is still transparant so you can see the radio.
The parking sensor switched to camera (even though I dont have one installed), I can press the icon to return to normal parking sensor.
Confirmed that audio stutters during NAV/SD playback. Could it be the size of the card, I have a 32gb in mine - prehaps Audiosource are testing with a small SD card? I'll try do a test tomorrow with a 4gb card.

No I was just able to confirm the stutter with Nav / SD myself, it seems to only happen when satnav is moving. I spoke to the technician he thinks it's because SD decoding is chewing up a lot of resources because it is all done by the ARM CPU now, which also handles the 3D graphics for navigation. They need to optimise SD decoding performance.

[Fdandy]

Ok - did some further testing. Using a 4gb card seems to only slightly improve performance on startup times.

Still lengthy delays when going to next track and stuttering occurs.

Note - the car must be driving with GPS on and on the screen (these issues do not happen with GPS on parked in the garage).

This is how I replicate the issue:

Start with GPS running, Map on fullscreen.
Launch SD
Play song (first song plays fine, then delay to change track, then subsequent track has stuttering).


Sandy -do we know if Audiosource is testing in a lab or actually testing in a car that is driving. If not the latter, it seems you can't replicate unless driving.

**edit - ahh just saw Sandy's post - yes issue is when moving.

[kwalsh24]

Have they figured out what's causing the crash for when you exit the GPS app? Does the mirroring flip and slow whiteout effect



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[DkN]

Ok - did some further testing. Using a 4gb card seems to only slightly improve performance on startup times.

Still lengthy delays when going to next track and stuttering occurs.

Note - the car must be driving with GPS on and on the screen (these issues do not happen with GPS on parked in the garage).

This is how I replicate the issue:

Start with GPS running, Map on fullscreen.
Launch SD
Play song (first song plays fine, then delay to change track, then subsequent track has stuttering).


Sandy -do we know if Audiosource is testing in a lab or actually testing in a car that is driving. If not the latter, it seems you can't replicate unless driving.

**edit - ahh just saw Sandy's post - yes issue is when moving.

Yup iGo has a demo function though so you don't have to be driving - I've explained it all to the software guy so they should be onto it now.

Have they figured out what's causing the crash for when you exit the GPS app? Does the mirroring flip and slow whiteout effect

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I can't replicate this issue, my GPS exits fine. Could it be related to the GPS software you are using?

[kwalsh24]

Hmm I'm using the version that a user uploaded that they got from AS for Australia

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[asa572]

That is the correct firmware. On mine the radio does not mute when starting anymore and I don't have your frequency issue. Can you turn RDS off, select all the stations one by one, then turn RDS back on, and see if it makes a difference?

Also how is your radio signal? Did you need the dual FAKRA adapter?

Regarding the SD slot cover, they might take a few jiggles to put back in after you pull them outwards a bit. Just focus on the bottom section and it will go in flat eventually.

Seems like it has stopped muting when starting but the channels being out is still happening when RDS is on or off.
RDS has always been hit and miss on mine with each firmware update.
Radio signal is fine and yes I needed the FAKRA adapter.

[DkN]

Seems like it has stopped muting when starting but the channels being out is still happening when RDS is on or off.
RDS has always been hit and miss on mine with each firmware update.
Radio signal is fine and yes I needed the FAKRA adapter.

I'll check with the technician - my radio has been fine and I also needed the dual FAKRA adapter, having a Golf 5. RDS has also been fine, the only issue is when in a certain spot with heavy interference it tends to try to re-scan the RDS name (that's when you see funny symbols come up on the RDS name) but the frequency and radio signal is fine. The RDS name also fixes itself once I pass the interference spot.

Do you have any other issues with your unit?

[swyner]

Well I can confirm that the white screen due to cold is completely fixed in the production units!! It has been -20 Celsius all week and unit works perfectly.

Also worth noting that the most recent firmware has fixed excessive bass issue so I can have +3 bass at +30 volume and sounds very very good. Also those with mk6 with mfd+ the right side steering wheel buttons no longer control the DNS so when moving up and down in the mfi screen it doesn't change stations. A lot of improvement in each firmware. Great job AS.

[Goobz]

My SD/Nav memory issue appears to have gotten marginally better with the latest update but the issue is still there. Im currently using a class 4 33GB card but I have class 10 32GB card here im going to try just to see if it makes any difference. Good to hear they are narrowing down on the issue. Also my BT audio quality appears to have gotten slightly worse lately. The highs are really crackly and the whole thing sounds really flat & washed out compared to SD/radio etc. Do you know if they are looking into this at all Sandy or is it a hardware issue as you said it might be earlier? Thanks mate!

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[asa572]

I'll check with the technician - my radio has been fine and I also needed the dual FAKRA adapter, having a Golf 5. RDS has also been fine, the only issue is when in a certain spot with heavy interference it tends to try to re-scan the RDS name (that's when you see funny symbols come up on the RDS name) but the frequency and radio signal is fine. The RDS name also fixes itself once I pass the interference spot.

Do you have any other issues with your unit?

Last night I re installed the latest firmware and first thing I did was set preset stations.
Got to station seven and pressed preset, selected 7 to 12 and held position 7 to save station and the unit just locked up.
Had to hold both buttons in to shut down.
When I restarted it hadn't saved the last 2 stations i'd saved.
But then it just worked as it should. Stations were correct and not dropping point 1 or 2 even the RDS was working properly, which has never done on my unit
Then I turned the ignition of pulled the key and then went to start the car and farkin bang, back to mute.

As for other issues Sandy, I haven't been driving my car enough to find out if there are any.

Radio works (fingers crossed)
Bluetooth works and have never had a problem with it no matter what firmware was used.
Sat Nav hasn't crashed since latest firmware ( not that i've used it much).
SD works fine but would be happier if it was set up to play the next folder instead of reverting back to folder 1.
GPS SD slot cover does not fit properly.
I bought this unit for SAT NAV, Bluetooth, SD, USB and the Radio and I might put in a reversing camera, that's it.
If they work I don't care about the missing features, screens ect.
Andy

[cpkk]

I noticed when using SD playback on the latest firmware that when I start up the unit, playback resumes from the last song I listened to, however at 30 seconds in from the start of the song (ie. at 0:30).

Also the extremely slow forward skipping with large mp3 files still persists (hasn't sped up at all since the original firmware) - using a 32GB Class 10 Sandisk Ultra MicroSD card.

[asa572]

Do you have any other issues with your unit?

Following on.

Tested using the satnav and sd today and there is some conflict happening.
First thing I noticed and don't know if it's a feature or a flaw was how muted the music was when the satnav was on.
Pulled up at the servo to get a drink, left the car running and when I opened the door the music went up to where it was set.
So opened the door and boom, loud music. Weird.
The pauses between songs were getting larger and larger until going to song 5 on a 12 song album it **** itself and stopped.
Had to shut down to get it to do anything.
So after this I reset the satnav to finish the trip and listened to the radio instead.
When I got to the destination I pressed YES when asked if i'd reached it and it went to the shut down screen, then I pressed
the shut down nav button that comes up and it froze on the iGo shut down screen.
I drove home using the nav and videoed it happening again when I got home.
I was going to upload the vid to youtube but the file is to big and I can't be farked figuring out how to compress it.

[DkN]

My SD/Nav memory issue appears to have gotten marginally better with the latest update but the issue is still there. Im currently using a class 4 33GB card but I have class 10 32GB card here im going to try just to see if it makes any difference. Good to hear they are narrowing down on the issue. Also my BT audio quality appears to have gotten slightly worse lately. The highs are really crackly and the whole thing sounds really flat & washed out compared to SD/radio etc. Do you know if they are looking into this at all Sandy or is it a hardware issue as you said it might be earlier? Thanks mate!

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I'm pretty sure it would be a hardware thing because mine and many others have never had issues with BT music streaming quality.

Then I turned the ignition of pulled the key and then went to start the car and farkin bang, back to mute.

I'm not quite sure what you are saying there, if you pulled the key the unit should have shutdown, are you saying radio was muted when it started? The radio muting issue was that if the ignition was on, the unit was on but the engine is not, and you then go to turn on the car, the radio will lose sound. This is the issue that was fixed in the last firmware update. Are you experiencing a different issue?

As for other issues Sandy, I haven't been driving my car enough to find out if there are any.

Radio works (fingers crossed)
Bluetooth works and have never had a problem with it no matter what firmware was used.
Sat Nav hasn't crashed since latest firmware ( not that i've used it much).
SD works fine but would be happier if it was set up to play the next folder instead of reverting back to folder 1.
GPS SD slot cover does not fit properly.
I bought this unit for SAT NAV, Bluetooth, SD, USB and the Radio and I might put in a reversing camera, that's it.
If they work I don't care about the missing features, screens ect.
Andy

Regarding the SD slot cover, as I said once you pull it out / twist it sometimes it's difficult to get it back in but just give it a few rubs near the bottom of the slot cover, it does go back in.

I noticed when using SD playback on the latest firmware that when I start up the unit, playback resumes from the last song I listened to, however at 30 seconds in from the start of the song (ie. at 0:30).

Also the extremely slow forward skipping with large mp3 files still persists (hasn't sped up at all since the original firmware) - using a 32GB Class 10 Sandisk Ultra MicroSD card.

These two issues are related. The way SD decoding currently works is that the song will start loading from the beginning and for a 4 min song this may take 15-20 seconds. However, once the first 30 seconds of the song is loaded it will just begin to play. In the older firmware, if the song position memory is at 3 minutes for example, the SD interface will wait for the loading to catch up, and that's why some of you experienced long load times for SD on startup. The temporary solution for AS now is to have the memory put to max of 30 seconds so you don't get stuck for excessively long periods on startup. In the mean time they are looking to change the song loading method, I presume to something that will load from whichever remembered point in the song rather than from the beginning.

The slow forward skipping for long songs is due to the same reason above, if you just started playing the song and want it to go to the 8 minutes point for example, the loading simply won't catch up for another 30 seconds or so.

Following on.

Tested using the satnav and sd today and there is some conflict happening.
First thing I noticed and don't know if it's a feature or a flaw was how muted the music was when the satnav was on.
Pulled up at the servo to get a drink, left the car running and when I opened the door the music went up to where it was set.
So opened the door and boom, loud music. Weird.
The pauses between songs were getting larger and larger until going to song 5 on a 12 song album it **** itself and stopped.
Had to shut down to get it to do anything.
So after this I reset the satnav to finish the trip and listened to the radio instead.
When I got to the destination I pressed YES when asked if i'd reached it and it went to the shut down screen, then I pressed
the shut down nav button that comes up and it froze on the iGo shut down screen.
I drove home using the nav and videoed it happening again when I got home.
I was going to upload the vid to youtube but the file is to big and I can't be farked figuring out how to compress it.

The satnav and SD conflict is known and being worked on. As for the volume, it's because AS is using system volume for the satnav so some weird things are happening - I've reported this and the technician said they will go back to using a separate volume for satnav.

The auto shutdown on destination is really designed for portable GPS units, it's neither AS or iGo's fault because this feature was designed by iGo to attempt to shutdown the entire unit rather than just exit navigation, that's why on a head unit it would just make things freeze. It's best to disable this option in settings -> extra settings -> destination message (or similar wording).

Have you changed any settings or has anyone else come across this issue? AFAIK the shipped version of the navigation software should have had this option disabled by default.

[moda]

I'm pretty sure it would be a hardware thing because mine and many others have never had issues with BT music streaming quality.

My unit has always had fairly potato (bad) A2DP BT streaming quality, may be a hardware thing since it was a prerelease unit? Voice calls are fine, but music streaming has a fair amount of static on the highs (hard to explain lol). Pretty strange considering my chinese rns510 clone and my Eonon unit in my Prado stream music crystal clear.

Just got back to my car after 2 weeks of sitting in the sun over the christmas holidays, unit still works and the battery wasn't drained, yay. Updated to the latest firmware, all my previously noted issues are still there. At least it's being worked on. Thankfully the iPod charging issue was fixed in the last firmware, and that was one of my main annoyances, so the unit works pretty well now

[DkN]

My unit has always had fairly potato (bad) A2DP BT streaming quality, may be a hardware thing since it was a prerelease unit? Voice calls are fine, but music streaming has a fair amount of static on the highs (hard to explain lol). Pretty strange considering my chinese rns510 clone and my Eonon unit in my Prado stream music crystal clear.

Just got back to my car after 2 weeks of sitting in the sun over the christmas holidays, unit still works and the battery wasn't drained, yay. Updated to the latest firmware, all my previously noted issues are still there. At least it's being worked on. Thankfully the iPod charging issue was fixed in the last firmware, and that was one of my main annoyances, so the unit works pretty well now

Yeah the quality is definitely not normal.

Which issues are you referring to? Just did a quick scan of your issues in the spreadsheet, the radio muting when turning on the engine should be fixed (it is on mine) and FLAC should now display meta info.