RNS-510 HDD replacement/SSD swap DIY

[kamold]

Try loading Josi's recovery firmware CD and then full firmware upgrade.

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[Alex85]

Hi, searching accross internet for help, my friend ****ed up his RNS510, he tryed to install new firmware but his battery died in middle of process, and his device couldn't start after. He tryed many things, and in end he did really stupid one, he pulled HDD from device, connected on his PC, and after trying couple things he formated it.. And after he did all that he called me to help him. But now i don't know is there any help for it? Maybe to find other RNS510 and to copy files from that HDD to his? Or is there another solution? Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[kamold]

The file system is 'Vienna Flash File System' according to the partition table entry itself.
If anyone knows how to work with it or knows a tool that recognizes it, you will be able to clone and expand partitions.
Otherwise just reload the firmware, this will recreate partitions in the correct sizes, but you will need to reload music and maps.

[fronty]

Although I managed to successfully clone my HDD using Acronis, I did eventually end up re-installing the firmware simply so that I could get a larger music partition, I'm using 5238 and it gave me about 30GB for music on a 64GB SSD after reloading the firmware.

[fronty]

Although I managed to successfully clone my HDD using Acronis, I did eventually end up re-installing the firmware simply so that I could get a larger music partition, I'm using 5238 and it gave me about 30GB for music on a 64GB SSD after reloading the firmware.

[kamold]

That says they copied the original drive with the partition sizes intact. They needed to reload the firmware to make use of the whole drive.

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[bluey]

If clonezilla can recognise the file system, it will expand partitions as well as cloning.

Supports: (1) ext2, ext3, ext4, reiserfs, reiser4, xfs, jfs, btrfs, f2fs and nilfs2 of GNU/Linux, (2) FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS of MS Windows, (3) HFS+ of Mac OS, (4) UFS of FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD, (5) minix of Minix, and (6) VMFS3 and VMFS5 of VMWare ESX.

A german person has used it already on RNS-510
Allgemein » RNS 510 sehr träge

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So SSD is installed (Kingston 64GB) without reinstalling FW. Made I have the following:
- RNS disassemble (instructions there are in the network)
- Hard drive connected via adapter to the PC
- SSD connected via an adapter to the PC
- Clonezilla installed on a USB stick and the PC over a USB stick and Clonezilla started
- the HDD together with MBR so Blockwise using Clonezilla copied to the SSD and well. currently, the SSD is 32GB when I soon again should aufspiele the FW are the remaining GB's available. the installation is then a difference like night and day now , The RNS now runs very smoothly. The service is now immediately, navigation nazu is as fast as the RNS315

[kamold]

Yes you can do a block copy, but you can't alter the partition table so it's pointless. You will be stuck with the same partitions as you had on the old drive. I've tried manually editing the partition table (hex values) without success.

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[bluey]

I thought a proper clone tool could clone anything.

Haven't tried the RNS-510, but have used clonezilla (open source) for PC. Requires the drives can at least be connected like internals to the machine used for cloning. Documentation says unsupported file systems will be copied block by block.

[Ozsko]

While I like the SSD (apart from my one drive crash and replacement), due to the long winded copying process involved in putting a lot of music and audio books on it I am leaning towards SD cards more and more. It is also a more practical solution as I can switch between the card and HD without losing my place in the story or sequence of music I am listening to. After the SSD crashed some years ago I have never copied the whole library back to the HD but then these days I don't drive for anywhere near the time I used to so it probably does not matter. If I had the original small drive still in it I would put music on the card because I can do that on a PC quickly, books and spoken material on the HD because there is less of it. A 64gb card will hold a lot of music even at 320 which is what I record at. Unless there is someone in the car with me I prefer to listen to books these days and now have several hundred and I doubt I will ever listen to all of them unless I spend many hours in the car driving very long trips on my own.

[kamold]

You will waste much more time trying to clone it than to just do a firmware load.
There is a proprietary file system for the main partition which no clone tools can interpret.

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[enigma101]

Has anyone else had any success in cloning the original drive? I have a 'Zheino Classic A' PATA 64GB SSD that i'm planning to transplant very soon. I like the idea of cloning, as it potentially saves a lot of time. I would appreciate any tips anyone has.......thanks

[fronty]

I've had some success here now, leaving the old HDD on the radiator for 15 mins to warm up actually worked! My PC was able to access it and I used Acronis to save a disk image, I loaded the image onto the SSD, put it all back together and it's working a treat. I didn't have to reload the firmware or maps but obviously I am stuck with the tiny partitions and about 30MB of wasted space.

I did try to re-size the partitions using a couple of different partitioning programs but they only seemed to want to change (actually increase) the size of the middle (maps?) partition, this was formatted FAT32 whereas the others were unknown, maybe that's why they couldn't be resized.

I looked at the re-partitioning post but that seemed to be for quite an old version of firmware, I am running 5238 at the moment, is there a later firmware with better partition sizes? Or has anyone done it with later firmware (i.e. preserving the checksum or come up with some other hack?).

Cheers,

Fronty

[fronty]

Well my IDE converters actually arrived today so I've been having fun with these drives plugged into my PC. The SSD actually had an NTFS partition on it already, so I have removed that so that it is totally blank - I wonder if this is the cause of other peoples problems?

As for the HDD, well my PC BIOS is struggling to detect it, it seems to recognise it as a 30GB IDE HDD but when booting up the BIOS does it's auto detection thing and then says "hard disk error, hit f1 to continue" so I'm guessing the HDD is really hosed, this may explain why I was having so much trouble with it in the car (it only ever seemed to work when it was warm). I'm going to leave it on a radiator for 15 mins (it's getting cold here in the UK so the central heating has come on!) and see if that warms it up enough to get it working.

I wanted to try and clone it and if it didn't work then load on the f/w and maps, but I may not have a choice now anyway!

[kamold]

There is no need to clone the drive.
Just install the new blank drive and do a full firmware load.
If you are loading the same firmware version that is already on there, you need to enable firmware downgrade, which will be a case of letting it fail, then doing a three finger reboot to kick it off.