VW MY11 Bluetooth - VW 9ZB

[Pepe]

Sure am in Sydney.

Did you manage to get yours done? If so, where at?

DIY, it's not actually very difficult, saves you $300 in fitting charges too.

[MikeB]

I have the new Bluetooth, and while overall impressed with it's operation, I would like to use voice dialling with my Iphone. That is, not the car voice tags, but the phone voice dialling. My phone book is a few hundred contacts and just having several presets doesn't cut it. Anyone found a way to do this?

[rank]

So the more i look at buying the 9W7 aka 9ZB on ebay, the more confused I am .

Polish dude:
VW 9W7 Bluetooth KIT which from my understanding is the kit most people have purchased

Spainish dude:
Bluetooth VW RNS 510 9W7 UHV/RSAP AD2P / 5K0035730 !!! - eBay (item 320657744680 end time Mar-17-11 02:26:50 PDT) which looks to be newer and cheaper?

So, does anyone know the difference/s?
Looks like the BT controller has a different SKU than that of the polish one?

Which one would you get?
I am leaning towards the spainish guy because he has the plug and pray wiring harness included?

Any suggestions?

[Transporter]

The 9WZ will give you SMS function as well, the 9W7 will not.

[rank]

The 9WZ will give you SMS function as well, the 9W7 will not.

Oh, both the links are to the 9W7 and not the 9WZ as you mentioned above? Unless i'm mistaken somehow?

[Pepe]

I think the Spanish guy has his listing mixed up... he's calling it the 9W7 kit, but lists the part number for the 9WZ in it.

Anyway, much of a muchness, you can get the 9WZ kit from the Polish guy too, but he doesn't include the foam cover (which is different to the one I ordered FYI). Also, whilst technically the harness the Spanish guy gives you is "plug and play", it still requires you to run the mic up to the center of the roof, which is a nightmare (same as Polish guy)... if you already have voice recognition, you're better off cutting the current mic cable and saving youself the hassle. In that situation, the harness the Polish guy gives you will be easier to do it with, it's less hassle.

[nhand42]

Which one would you get?
I am leaning towards the spainish guy because he has the plug and pray wiring harness included?

I bought from the Spanish guy. Installation was very simple. Even the mike was pretty easy. The hardest part for me was putting the glovebox back. The plug and play harness worked although it is a tight fit behind the stereo, and I stowed the 730C behind the air-con controls rather than under the seat. The foam for under the seat looks ugly IMO.

You will need a VAG-COM.

The model you've linked to is different to the one I bought. I got the 7P6035730C.

One thing I don't like about the 730C is you can't use voice-control on the iPhone. You have to use the 730C voice menus and they are inferior to the iPhone. Also it claims to support AVRCP but the steering wheel buttons don't work for AVRCP. You have to use the voice menus and say the words "Play" and "Pause". Pretty dumb IMO.

[nhand42]

Also, whilst technically the harness the Spanish guy gives you is "plug and play", it still requires you to run the mic up to the center of the roof, which is a nightmare (same as Polish guy)...

I didn't find it that difficult to run the mike. For anybody that needs to do the same...

1) Remove the passenger side end piece of the dashboard; the end piece is parallel to the door when it is closed. Just stick a screwdriver into the only visible slot and twist.

2) Remove the tiny piece of plastic marked AIRBAG on the A-pillar cover. Start from the bottom and open it like a swinging door. It is a very tight fit. Use a plastic spatula to avoid damaging the plastic.

3) Remove the single screw behind the AIRBAG plastic piece. There are two clips holding the A-pillar cover. Pull firmly and both clips pop right off. The cover then slides out neatly.

4) Open the sun visor and pop the light out from the roof. The side closest to the door pops out easily. The other side, not so much. Don't force it. The clips look fragile.

5) Stick a credit card under the plastic piece with many holes in the above-head centre assembly. This pops out. Then remove the screws and the whole above-head assembly drops clear.

6) It's now a simple matter to run the mike cable from the dash to the above-head assembly. The mike locks into a specially designed clip holder in the assembly.

7) Running the cable from the side to the stereo involves dropping the glovebox. Open the glovebox and remove 4 screws from the top (2 angled in, 2 angled out). Then close the glovebox and remove 3 screws from the bottom. The glovebox will not drop. There is a tiny slot at the bottom to the right of the downwards facing air vent. Stick a flat head screwdriver in that slot and wiggle it about and then the glovebox drops. The glovebox has a lot of wires and ducts attached so have a pillow below it so it doesn't drop too far.

You now have clear line of sight to the centre console to attach the daisy-chain cable for the mike.

[Transporter]

That's some good instructions there.
Is that for Golf MK6?

[Pepe]

I didn't find it that difficult to run the mike. For anybody that needs to do the same...

1) Remove the passenger side end piece of the dashboard; the end piece is parallel to the door when it is closed. Just stick a screwdriver into the only visible slot and twist.

2) Remove the tiny piece of plastic marked AIRBAG on the A-pillar cover. Start from the bottom and open it like a swinging door. It is a very tight fit. Use a plastic spatula to avoid damaging the plastic.

3) Remove the single screw behind the AIRBAG plastic piece. There are two clips holding the A-pillar cover. Pull firmly and both clips pop right off. The cover then slides out neatly.

4) Open the sun visor and pop the light out from the roof. The side closest to the door pops out easily. The other side, not so much. Don't force it. The clips look fragile.

5) Stick a credit card under the plastic piece with many holes in the above-head centre assembly. This pops out. Then remove the screws and the whole above-head assembly drops clear.

6) It's now a simple matter to run the mike cable from the dash to the above-head assembly. The mike locks into a specially designed clip holder in the assembly.

7) Running the cable from the side to the stereo involves dropping the glovebox. Open the glovebox and remove 4 screws from the top (2 angled in, 2 angled out). Then close the glovebox and remove 3 screws from the bottom. The glovebox will not drop. There is a tiny slot at the bottom to the right of the downwards facing air vent. Stick a flat head screwdriver in that slot and wiggle it about and then the glovebox drops. The glovebox has a lot of wires and ducts attached so have a pillow below it so it doesn't drop too far.

You now have clear line of sight to the centre console to attach the daisy-chain cable for the mike.

Fair enough... the alternative is to cut 2 wires and solder them into the new plug, saving having to do all those steps above

[Transporter]

Fair enough... the alternative is to cut 2 wires and solder them into the new plug, saving having to do all those steps above

What do you mean? How will the cutting 2 wires and soldering them into the new plug gets the microphone where it should be when you have no microphone in the car?

[Corey_R]

Golf R already has the mic there....

[MikeB]

I have the new Bluetooth, and while overall impressed with it's operation, I would like to use voice dialling with my Iphone. That is, not the car voice tags, but the phone voice dialling. My phone book is a few hundred contacts and just having several presets doesn't cut it. Anyone found a way to do this?

update - I took it into VW who said this wasn't possible with this bluetooth. And Voice Recognition was only available with the Nav System (and this needed a separate microphone) and this didn't work with voice phone dialing anyway. I asked about this video by the VW Sales guy - and the mechanic said it must be a different model. Now actually, I don't think he really knew this. Just thought it didn't work.

This is the video I am referring to:
2011 Volkswagen bluetooth phonebook voice command fix (9W7) « Ask a VW salesguy's Blog

It has the 9w7 code, and looks and works the same, and uses the MFD voicedial button. I am fairly sure this is the same model of Bluetooth in Australian MY11 cars..... so why can't I make it work?????

I used my VCDS cable to look at the coding of the steering wheel (button only mutes currently) but couldn't find any docs on how to code this to change it. Anyone else got any ideas?

[nhand42]

update - I took it into VW who said this wasn't possible with this bluetooth.

Correct that you can't use the iPhone voice control with the VW bluetooth unit.

And Voice Recognition was only available with the Nav System (and this needed a separate microphone) and this didn't work with voice phone dialing anyway. I asked about this video by the VW Sales guy - and the mechanic said it must be a different model. Now actually, I don't think he really knew this. Just thought it didn't work.

He's wrong on that one. I have the VW bluetooth 9W7 with the RCD510 (not the nav, just the radio) and I can use Voice Recognition. You press the steering wheel button then say "Call John" and it calls John. It's not that bad.

I used my VCDS cable to look at the coding of the steering wheel (button only mutes currently) but couldn't find any docs on how to code this to change it. Anyone else got any ideas?

The coding is a bit convoluted. You need to enable the telephone in the central electronics section, then enable it again in the steering wheel section, then go into the telephone section and do stuff there, and then go into the radio and do more stuff. From the instructions I worked from:

‐Please recode the module 77 telephone:
VW Golf/Jetta (1K9) / VW Passat (3C9) / VW Tiguan (5N9)/ Scirocco (13): 0A01000000010110 ( English )
‐Please recode module 19 Gateway: Please find 77 telephone and activate it
To enable the voice dialing, (key microphone of the steering wheel) in some cases it’s necessary recoding of Channel 16 Steering wheel, 07 in the recoding function will change the value of the digit in the position of the question 018?040000 if there is a 2 in this case we must change for a letter “A”.

[kash_0]

So the more i look at buying the 9W7 aka 9ZB on ebay, the more confused I am .

Polish dude:
VW 9W7 Bluetooth KIT which from my understanding is the kit most people have purchased

Spainish dude:
Bluetooth VW RNS 510 9W7 UHV/RSAP AD2P / 5K0035730 !!! - eBay (item 320657744680 end time Mar-17-11 02:26:50 PDT) which looks to be newer and cheaper?

So, does anyone know the difference/s?
Looks like the BT controller has a different SKU than that of the polish one?

Which one would you get?
I am leaning towards the spainish guy because he has the plug and pray wiring harness included?

Any suggestions?

Hi guys,

Picking up my GTI in a couple of weeks and am hoping to get bluetooth installed. I'm also planning to buy the RNS-510 sometime soon but have no idea which kit would be more suited to the RNS-510 in terms of microphone preparation. Will either of these kits mic work without any mods or will I have to splice wires If I get one and not the other.

Also would be greatly appreciated if someone could help me with the install and coding as I'm not that confident in ripping my car apart. Happy to reimburse for your troubles.

Cheers