DNA Tuning: VW Golf R dyno results and feedback

[Lucas_R]

Given the other mods you've made, do you feel it's worth it? Is the power noticeable? What's your 0-100 times like now?

By far in a way the biggest bank-for-buck difference is going from stock to a Stage 1 tune (regardless of tuner company). Then the addition of a downpipe and intake made another noticeable jump in power (and this was how the car was dyno'd in my 1st post - stage 1 DNA tune + downpipe + intake). Because the car had such a strong figure with these basic mods (204kw/354nm), there wasn't a massive difference in the addition of the HPFP, intercooler and stage 3 tune - although if you try and compare the two graphs, the car is making about 5-6kw more pretty much all the way through the rev range. The peak torque is about 25nm higher, and holds consistently higher all the way to redline.

I actually asked DNA to turn my boost down a little bit, as it was a bit high for my liking, and this is how the car was run on the dyno a month or so ago when it made 208kw and 380nm. So with a another few PSI of boost, there would be a little more power/torque to be had (not much, but a little).

The car is pretty much at the safe limit of the turbo now.

Is the power noticeable? Well yes - it goes like a little rocket now. The wave of torque is awesome and addictive. It's got alot more power than stock thats for sure. Still gets excellent fuel economy providing you don't drive like a goose. Im getting around 10L/100km average which is almost 100% city driving. On a recent road trip down south it averaged 8.2L/100km on the open road.

I haven't tested the 0-100kph since doing the latest changes, but i will do it soon and post up the results. Given that mines a manual, it's the change to 3rd gear to reach 100kph that hurts the 0-100kph times, but i would be hoping for 5.5seconds or so. You could easily take a second off that time for a DSG vehicle using launch control.

[Allegiance]

DNA Tuning: VW Golf R dyno results and feedback

I'm still yet to pull the trigger on the stage 1 tune, but thanks for the info Seems like intake+dp+tune is a good level to get it to without going crazy.


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[Andypants]

Hi Lucas,

I noticed in your comment that your stage 1 tune was running quite a boost setting, and that in your stage 3 you wound this back. What was the level that you wound back to, in order to get what you considered to be a safe boost level for the K04?

Reason I ask is I'm thinking of using John and the guys at DNA for the tune for my Pirelli

Cheers

[Lucas_R]

DNA Tuning: VW Golf R dyno results and feedback

I noticed in your comment that your stage 1 tune was running quite a boost setting, and that in your stage 3 you wound this back. What was the level that you wound back to, in order to get what you considered to be a safe boost level for the K04?

Reason I ask is I'm thinking of using John and the guys at DNA for the tune for my Pirelli

Cheers

Hi Andy - i logged the car after the tune and found that the boost was spiking (as these turbos do) up to about 27-28psi at around 3,000rpm before settling down to around 23psi.
John assured me that the boost pressure was ok, but i asked if it could be turned down a notch for peace of mind.

It now hits about 25-26psi max and then settles on about 21-22psi throughout the rest of the rev range.

Definetly worth a try for your Pirelli, the prices are great and they do a strong tune.

[Andypants]

Yeah pretty hard to avoid boost spike with lots of turbo charged cars in my experience, so I can see why you've opted to wind back a touch.

I have emailed John previously and he's mentioned your car as a reference point for what can be achieved with this engine via DNA and yeah as you've rightly pointed out the price is compelling when compared to the rivals. Its interesting that they hadn't yet done a Pirelli in Aus though when I spoke to him - plenty of S3's and a few R's but no Pirellis

[Lucas_R]

DNA Tuning: VW Golf R dyno results and feedback

Might be because the Pirelli's are quite rare? But as you know, its the same engine, turbo and ECU so its all applicable to your car.

I personally know of about 8-10x Golf R's now on several forums that have a DNA tune, no doubt there are more though.

The guy that owns DNA in the UK also owns and races a Seat Cupra R in a series over there, and they use the same 2.0TFSI with K04. Look up DNA Tuning on Facebook as well as DNA Motorsports.

[Andypants]

The guy that owns DNA in the UK also owns and races a Seat Cupra R in a series over there, and they use the same 2.0TFSI with K04. Look up DNA Tuning on Facebook as well as DNA Motorsports.

Cool will do that thanks mate

[DNA Tuning]

Andy, as you may know, GIAC have a strong presence when it comes to tuning Pirellis because of guys like DeanCorp and so forth - that may be why I haven't done them.

But as Lucas has pointed out, what we do for the R is what we do for the Pirellis, and no doubt if you went for a DNA tune you will be more than satisfied with the result.

The 3000rpm boost "spike" in 2.0T + K04 setups are highly dependent on the downpipe and intercooler setups; these will obviously vary depending on combinations of parts. Certainly whilst the boost control parameters can be adjusted to suit each setup, this mid range peak is not nearly as stressful for the turbo as it is in the top end, so nevertheless is not something to be too worried about.

Also, I have extended our satisfaction guarantee to a full month; this ensures you can really test out our tunes over a longer period of time to be sure it meets with your expectations. You are entitled to a full refund any time within this period and the SRS-II loads your stock tune back onto the ECU so you have nothing to lose.

[Andypants]

Hey John thanks for chipping in mate. I guess there has to be a first for everything Will be in touch soon

[Lucas_R]

Just updating this thread with another dyno sheet for my car. This is the DNA Tuning stage 3 tune, and the dyno machine is a Dyno Dynamics located at Advan/BMR Autowerks at Auburn, Sydney.

I took the car down to the BMR dyno day at the end of November and it made 211.7kw on their Dyno Dynamics dyno. When i had the car dyno'd earlier this year here in Newcastle it made 208kw on a Mainline machine - so it's pretty similar on both machines. The only changes i have made since the last dyno was a different intake setup, so the difference in figures is most likely just variance from one dyno to another.

You can also left foot brake with the DNA tune - something that i like to use occasionally, and not all tunes allow it.

For reference, at the same dyno day, my friends MK5 GTi with DNA stage 2 tune made 161.2kw - which is pretty much in line with DNA's quoted figures. The GTI has 110,000km's on it and has had a hard life with very little mechanical sympathy, so it did well considering.

[kam]

bump, great thread !

am interested in getting a tune for my 2011 Golf R DSG, not so much for power, but more to make it more 'driveable': leaving the car in D it shifts way too soon, its like its in a rush to get to 6th gear, leaving me laboring around everywhere, and S its just stupid in my opinion, holds the gears way too long, i look like a tool driving around revving at 5K rpm in 2nd :p

my only mod is a neuspeed intake (stock google image)



which to be honest i got more just for sound, as the Golf R is very quite compared to the GTI

Is there anyone in Melbourne with a stock R and just a stage 1 dna tune that could take me for a spin, i dont want to spend $1500 on it, and then be un-impressed, as user Zoza was...

[Lucas_R]

bump, great thread !

am interested in getting a tune for my 2011 Golf R DSG, not so much for power, but more to make it more 'driveable': leaving the car in D it shifts way too soon, its like its in a rush to get to 6th gear, leaving me laboring around everywhere, and S its just stupid in my opinion, holds the gears way too long, i look like a tool driving around revving at 5K rpm in 2nd :p

my only mod is a neuspeed intake (stock google image)

which to be honest i got more just for sound, as the Golf R is very quite compared to the GTI

Is there anyone in Melbourne with a stock R and just a stage 1 dna tune that could take me for a spin, i dont want to spend $1500 on it, and then be un-impressed, as user Zoza was...

Luckily, DNA offers a 14 day (or it might be 30 day?) refund policy if you aren't happy with the tune. The Australian distributor for DNA is also based in Melbourne so it couldn't be easier for you to try it.

My car is a manual....BUT i do believe the DSG tune is altered slightly when the ECU is tuned which may assist with the issues you are describing above.

[OYE]

Please will getting a stage 1 tune result in increased engine oil consumption?

[brad]

Please will getting a stage 1 tune result in increased engine oil consumption?

In like-for-like driving there's no reason it should.

[OYE]

In like-for-like driving there's no reason it should.

Thanks brad!