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  • Guys I am thinking of seperating this thread into dsg and manual any other suggestions of seperations? We can't have too many as you will end up with only one or 2 cars in each section but I do feel that is a fair seperation.
    Originally posted by seangti
    The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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    • Go for it mate! Maybe have a top 5 best times regardless of transmission at top, then under that rank all the others separated into transmission.

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      • I think its best to leave it how it is actually because in an ideal world the transmission makes only a slight difference if the driver is experienced. The MPH will be the same too or within a mph nothing more. The same thing could apply ADW/FWD big turbo and DSG with altered maps. The AWD FWD separation is fair though as traction plays a major part in the times -note not mph but times.
        Thats my 2c but if everyone is keen to separate that's cool too

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        • Works well as is

          Easy enough to copy and paste into Excel for anally retentive types like me

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          • Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
            I think its best to leave it how it is actually because in an ideal world the transmission makes only a slight difference if the driver is experienced. The MPH will be the same too or within a mph nothing more. The same thing could apply ADW/FWD big turbo and DSG with altered maps. The AWD FWD separation is fair though as traction plays a major part in the times -note not mph but times.
            Thats my 2c but if everyone is keen to separate that's cool too
            There are some very experienced drivers in the top 10 who drive both manual & DSG for example Guy Harding. Yet there is only 1 manual car in that lot and it's 6th on the ladder.

            I'm sorry but I don't agree there is only a "slight" difference when in most quarter runs there is 3 manual gear changes to navigate, and when we are talking times separated by only tenths of a second the advantage of DSG is rather "large" imo not to mention the help you get with launch.

            I do however wholehearted agree about the separation due to AWD v's FWD

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            • It's easier in the DSG no question and in a manual you may only get everything right 1 out of 15 times or so but really the differences is in a couple of tenths if that. The mph will be very similar the launch will be similar but very very hard to get right.
              The purists might find separating the manuals from the DSGs as a sign that the manuals are technically inferior ( where's Goran )
              Maybe have the times in three or more tables then. The overall fastest cars what ever the model/trans/mods and then the others divided as above under neath that , that way every one is happy and you can still obtain an easy reference. Harder to maintain though

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              • im thinking something like this

                "Master table"
                list 5 best overall times
                AWD table dsg/manual
                fwd dsg/manual

                Will work on this over the weekend, just want to make it look nicer than it is atm
                Originally posted by seangti
                The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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                • From my understanding the manual transmissions get more power out to the wheels but have a 'slower' shifting time than the DSG's so at the end of the 400m it should be relatively the same.

                  RE: AWD vs FWD, assuming the AWD would have better 60ft time but at the end of the quarter it should be pretty even in mph (again not a major difference in ET?)

                  Edit: Didn't see another page of posts, whoops
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                  • FWD trap speeds can sometimes be a little artificially high if the launch was particularly bad. (lots of wheelspin)

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                    • Originally posted by jasn78 View Post
                      im thinking something like this

                      "Master table"
                      list 5 best overall times
                      AWD table dsg/manual
                      fwd dsg/manual

                      Will work on this over the weekend, just want to make it look nicer than it is atm
                      Sounds good Jase!

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                      • Originally posted by Tim View Post
                        FWD trap speeds can sometimes be a little artificially high if the launch was particularly bad. (lots of wheelspin)
                        Totally agree! In fact I tend to spin more at the 2nd gear change

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                        • So a bad launch gives you more power and hence a higher trap speed....

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                          • Originally posted by parso_rex View Post
                            So a bad launch gives you more power and hence a higher trap speed....
                            Excessive wheelspin gives you more acceleration time on the track I believe is the theory. We certainly saw it in practice out the Heathcote drag day last year. Deans highest trap speed was one of his slower times

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                            • Guys, anyone know if we can link an excel spreadsheet to here?
                              Originally posted by seangti
                              The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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                                Originally posted by seangti
                                The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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