Opticoat pro

[brad]

Lol. Well guess who was pushing the gyeon onto me!! Carcare products guy. Anyone suspect they're getting commission from gyeon!!! Particularly after I went in specifically to buy Nanolex and he did everything he could to try to convince me the gyeon was THE product.

I'm sure they are on a great profit margin.

When I was in retail I used to push the products taht had the most effect on my bonus - which usually meant pushing the best profit margin lines.

[Martin]

I'm using Gyeon on the Octavia and AutoGlym Hardwax on the wife's Mazda3
Similar results really - probably the Gyeon will last longer than the hard wax

I would say the Gyeon is not as hydrophobic as I had hoped
It demo's well with a hose, but so does the hard wax
At 70kmph I still have some morning dew clinging to the bonnet

[GTR27]

I use Wolfgang deep gloss sealant 3.0 and it's one of the glossiest sealants I've seen. Doesn't last as long as the ceramic nano sealants, but it's very easy to apply, and gives fantastic results for 4-6 months depending on how the car is kept. Seems to bead really well too.

I've got a much more complete kit now, so will seal the new car when it arrives, and all the extra kit I have (plus will use dodo juice red most after washing to help extend sealant life) should see an easy 6 months from the sealant. Might give some wax a crack over the top for more protection, but being a white car, not expecting the paintwork to 'pop' like it did on the race blue like last time.

IMO, I think there will be minimal difference between good products, and your own routine and care will make more difference.

[donweather]

Martin I agree about the gyeon. It didn't look anywhere near as hydrophobic as the Nanolex in the YouTube footage I saw. Ultra Nanolex is supposed to last for up to 36 mths now so that's got me sold!!!

[kaanage]

IMO, I think there will be minimal difference between good products, and your own routine and care will make more difference.

^ this. In each class (coating, sealant, wax) the good offerings will all work and last well with only minor differences IME, providing they are maintained. Coatings need the least maintenance but aren't force shields.

[Martin]

Seems to bead really well too.

That's what we are talking about, beading is one thing but we really need the surface to be hydrophobic (water can't cling to the surface, runs off really easy) because if the water sits there (wet coat or beading) and evaporates it will leave behind the chemicals and can etch into the paint

[Martin]

Martin I agree about the gyeon. It didn't look anywhere near as hydrophobic as the Nanolex in the YouTube footage I saw. Ultra Nanolex is supposed to last for up to 36 mths now so that's got me sold!!!

Yes, I love Nanolex on the windscreen, looks like I will have to try it on the paintwork

[GTR27]

Beading is a side affect of being hydrophobic. The better it beads, the easier the water runs off. Sealants and waxes IMO provide slightly better beading than ceramics, but obviously don't last as long.

[Wolfgang]

Coatings tend to be hydrophilic, sheets the water off.

Waxes and sealants tend to be hydrophobic, rolls the water off.

At the end of the day, same same but different.

[donweather]

Actually Nanolex is superhydrophobic (contact angle greater than 150 deg) which results in more contaminants being picked up and carried away by strong water beading rather than deposited in situ.

Gyeon Moh has a contact angle of 85 deg, hence it's defined as hydrophillic.....not superhydrophillic.

[oxmo]

Hi all. Am contemplating getting opticoat pro paint protection and interior protection on my new red MK3 Octavia. Anyone had it done and are you happy with it?

Thanks in advance.

Paint protection/leather/fabric protection is probably the biggest rort in the automotive industry.

[oxmo]

Save your money, buy some good quality wax and scotch guard if you must. Its a rort.

+1
well said!

[rsp8]

It depends on your priorities but almost always true if purchased as a high dealer margin add-on at point of new care sale. Professional paint correction and protection done independently is not only much better value but is usually a far better standard than a dealer hack job.

[GTR27]

I use 303 fabric protector. Cost is $37 a spray bottle and doors the interior. You can see where it goes and where it isn't, so easy to apply (does take a while to dry though). Just clean and reapply every 6 months

[OctaviaKid]

If you get MOHS Plus it comes with an additional product called phobic that greatly increases the hydrophobic (ness) of mohs on its own