RS Eibach lowering springs (family wagon)

[dArK5HaD0w]

what rear sways have you opted for?

Whiteline Sway Bar 24mm X H/Duty Blade Adjustable - BWR20XZ

getting it installed next month, along with my apr exhaust

[MrGadget]

Yup please!!!

Eibach Skoda Octavia (1Z5) Estate 2.0 TDi Pro-Kit (E10-79-004-04-22)

Delivery to Australia is about $80. I have sent them an email enquiring about stock availability and delivery times.

[kaanage]

So for those that have the Eibach lowered springs with stock shocks, can I ask, do these lowered springs assist in anyway with more front wheel traction/less axial tramping etc, or are they purely for handling (cornering)?

Lowering springs alone are good for posing and cornering on very smooth roads. You need DAMPERS that are matched to them for improved control (stock ones may work sort of OK for a while but the higher spring rate WILL kill them much more quickly than they would last with the OE springs).

As stated by others in this thread alone

I used lower springs on stock shocks, the out come was hard and unstatisfactory
I switched to Eibach springs and Bilstein shocks - wonderful solution (back to factory ride height)

It is not the spring alone that affects the ride. Important to remember that the spring needs to be matched to the shock. I'm using the Eibach pro (springs and shock kit bought from Eibach Australia). Lower, good handling and supple ride.

I have the VWR springs, and they make a difference in cornering, but undulating country roads now feel horribly floaty and scary, when they used to be able to be taken with confidence... But new shocks will *probably* solve that.

[donweather]

Eibach Skoda Octavia (1Z5) Estate 2.0 TDi Pro-Kit (E10-79-004-04-22)

Delivery to Australia is about $80. I have sent them an email enquiring about stock availability and delivery times.

Thanks. I had seen them before and didn't think it really was worth the hassle of an international order to save AUD$50-$60

[cbay]

Whiteline Sway Bar 24mm X H/Duty Blade Adjustable - BWR20XZ

getting it installed next month, along with my apr exhaust

awesome!

[Tigger]

So for those that have the Eibach lowered springs with stock shocks, can I ask, do these lowered springs assist in anyway with more front wheel traction/less axial tramping etc, or are they purely for handling (cornering)?

No...Mine still has the worst axle tramp under very heavy take off!
Just ask Mysticality...he has driven with me.....

[Mysticality]

No...Mine still has the worst axle tramp under very heavy take off!
Just ask Mysticality...he has driven with me.....

I wouldn't call it the *worst*... The diesel engine is heavier than the petrol, but it is pretty bad.

You need to get a whole front end suspension makeover! Pronto!

[Martin]

So for those that have the Eibach lowered springs with stock shocks, can I ask, do these lowered springs assist in anyway with more front wheel traction/less axial tramping etc, or are they purely for handling (cornering)?

They are primarily for looks, they will reduce roll somewhat and give a more sporty ride
When pushed hard on less than favourable roads you may hit the bump stops - this is highly undesirable (and can be dangerous)
(Our standard shocks are nothing to write home about - I love the control of my Bilstiens)

These springs won't make any difference to axel tramp
You either need a firmer dog bone mount or the Supaloy control arms
The dog bone mount has terrible/negative consequences (loud and low frequency cabin reverberation) at idle, in stop/start traffice and when reversing - I went back to stock!
The Supaloy control arms are a tad expensive but solve axel tramp, provide better straight line stability and more negative camber which increases corning road holding - given the benefits these are good value for money in my opinion

[kaanage]

They are primarily for looks, they will reduce roll somewhat and give a more sporty ride
When pushed hard on less than favourable roads you may hit the bump stops - this is highly undesirable (and can be dangerous)
(Our standard shocks are nothing to write home about

Good luck on getting this message through (plus the jouncy, floaty experience on bumpy roads) - I've tried on multiple occassions.

[zei20t]

They are primarily for looks, they will reduce roll somewhat and give a more sporty ride
When pushed hard on less than favourable roads you may hit the bump stops - this is highly undesirable (and can be dangerous)
(Our standard shocks are nothing to write home about - I love the control of my Bilstiens)

These springs won't make any difference to axel tramp
You either need a firmer dog bone mount or the Supaloy control arms
The dog bone mount has terrible/negative consequences (loud and low frequency cabin reverberation) at idle, in stop/start traffice and when reversing - I went back to stock!
The Supaloy control arms are a tad expensive but solve axel tramp, provide better straight line stability and more negative camber which increases corning road holding - given the benefits these are good value for money in my opinion

do the whiteline kits do all that too?

I get axle tramp and it pops open the dash hidey-hole which is really distracting. also the actual tramping is bad too

ok checked out their site. they look great! martin, which ones do you have?

http://www.superpro.com.au/superpro-parts/ALOY0001K

http://www.superpro.com.au/superpro-parts/ALOY3273-80K

[kaanage]

From all reports, the WALK will have a similar effect to the Supaloy control arms since they both reduce the stiffness (increase compliance) of the front suspension to dive/lift so the suspension doesn't bind up from the geometry in these circumstances.

[brad]

Martin got the full arm which includes the rear bracket.

BTW: Martin - half an insert is pretty good. I think if they were a lower duro they'd be pretty good all round

[zei20t]

yeah ive been reading up about the supaloy product. looks great and value for money. I think ill be getting one in the coming months

[donweather]

They are primarily for looks, they will reduce roll somewhat and give a more sporty ride
When pushed hard on less than favourable roads you may hit the bump stops - this is highly undesirable (and can be dangerous)
(Our standard shocks are nothing to write home about - I love the control of my Bilstiens)

These springs won't make any difference to axel tramp
You either need a firmer dog bone mount or the Supaloy control arms
The dog bone mount has terrible/negative consequences (loud and low frequency cabin reverberation) at idle, in stop/start traffice and when reversing - I went back to stock!
The Supaloy control arms are a tad expensive but solve axel tramp, provide better straight line stability and more negative camber which increases corning road holding - given the benefits these are good value for money in my opinion

Thanks Martin.

I am looking at getting the Eibach springs and the supaloy control arms so hopefully that improves the look and feel (axle tramping) of the car, particularly if I also decide to go for an ECU upgrade.

[zei20t]

ECU upgrade is a worth mod