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  • no passenger. will be coming up for sure
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    • Unfortunately I now have to cover someone else at work on this day, so neither my Polo or Clio will be able to make it.

      So two more lucky ones from te reserve. Will do my utmost to make the next one, I'm devastated I can't make it haha.

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      • Originally posted by nat225 View Post
        no passenger. will be coming up for sure
        Awesome, thanks for letting me know.

        Originally posted by leitch View Post
        Unfortunately I now have to cover someone else at work on this day, so neither my Polo or Clio will be able to make it.

        So two more lucky ones from te reserve. Will do my utmost to make the next one, I'm devastated I can't make it haha.

        That is a shame mate.
        There will be another one though
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        • Guys & Girls,

          Quick technical question, when pinning it around the track, do you think it's best to leave the traction control on or off? I find at low road speeds under hard acceleration, such as coming out of a tight hairpin in second gear, the TC will kill engine power to stop the wheels from spinning. If TC is off, it feels a lot faster even though there is some wheelspin under hard acceleration. It is definitely faster in a straight line with TC "off", but I guess, does TC make it faster through the corners in all areas of the track when wheelspin is not an issue?

          Has TC saved anyone from having a big lose on a racetrack or otherwise (when driving "spiritedly")

          Tobes.

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          • Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
            Guys & Girls,

            Quick technical question, when pinning it around the track, do you think it's best to leave the traction control on or off? I find at low road speeds under hard acceleration, such as coming out of a tight hairpin in second gear, the TC will kill engine power to stop the wheels from spinning. If TC is off, it feels a lot faster even though there is some wheelspin under hard acceleration. It is definitely faster in a straight line with TC "off", but I guess, does TC make it faster through the corners in all areas of the track when wheelspin is not an issue?

            Has TC saved anyone from having a big lose on a racetrack or otherwise (when driving "spiritedly")

            Tobes.
            Good question mate.
            I have AWD and had no problems with all electronic aids on.

            I believe some of the FWD people turned their traction control off but might be best to wait for their answers.
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            • Faster or slower the fences at lakeside are all really close so I figure it's pretty good insurance to leave it on
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              • team_v can you put me down on the reserve list, and even if i dont make the lappers can I come as a spectator? If so how much for the breakfast?
                Originally posted by seangti
                The price of the car rarely indicates driver ability/lap time.

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                • Originally posted by jasn78 View Post
                  team_v can you put me down on the reserve list, and even if i dont make the lappers can I come as a spectator? If so how much for the breakfast?
                  I'll put you on the reserve list mate.
                  You can come to spectate if you wish.

                  Spectating is free (unless you are passengering).
                  Breakfast is $25.
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                  • I'll come out to hang but I won't be participating this time (as much as I want to).
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                    • Originally posted by Tobes_WIR35 View Post
                      Guys & Girls,

                      Quick technical question, when pinning it around the track, do you think it's best to leave the traction control on or off? I find at low road speeds under hard acceleration, such as coming out of a tight hairpin in second gear, the TC will kill engine power to stop the wheels from spinning. If TC is off, it feels a lot faster even though there is some wheelspin under hard acceleration. It is definitely faster in a straight line with TC "off", but I guess, does TC make it faster through the corners in all areas of the track when wheelspin is not an issue?

                      Has TC saved anyone from having a big lose on a racetrack or otherwise (when driving "spiritedly")

                      Tobes.
                      At lakeside, best to leave it on. There's only two parts of the track you'll likely get wheel spin (out of 1st hair pin and the left hander up the hill). Bear in mind this also isn't timed so you won't notice the fraction of a second quicker (unless you have a lap timer). Just feather the throttle and save your tyres over the 30min session.

                      In a timed environment, yes, turning it off is marginally quicker if you can steer a car, though also results in overheating street tyres very quickly. I only find it intrusive in powerdown, rather than cornering. Check out QR website for sprints as they are timed events, but 5x the price for much the same (or less) track time - just less people on the track at any time and people that are out there for a lap time, rather than just to circulate.

                      To add to the rant - for these events, focus on your lines, braking (feel rather than just dropping the car on its nose) and car balance rather than outright speeds. Check out each others lines, see what works and doesn't, or follow someone that knows what they're doing, even if their car is slower.

                      Hope that helps.
                      Last edited by seangti; 10-01-2012, 04:47 PM.
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                      • Keen as. Vr6 engine still won't be in for this probably but it will be fun to see how the bags react to a track setting might not be three wheeling it this time haha.

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                        • Originally posted by seangti View Post
                          At lakeside, best to leave it on. There's only two parts of the track you'll likely get wheel spin (out of 1st hair pin and the left hander up the hill). Bear in mind this also isn't timed so you won't notice the fraction of a second quicker (unless you have a lap timer). Just feather the throttle and save your tyres over the 30min session.

                          In a timed environment, yes, turning it off is marginally quicker if you can steer a car, though also results in overheating street tyres very quickly. I only find it intrusive in powerdown, rather than cornering. Check out QR website for sprints as they are timed events, but 5x the price for much the same (or less) track time - just less people on the track at any time and people that are out there for a lap time, rather than just to circulate.

                          To add to the rant - for these events, focus on your lines, braking (feel rather than just dropping the car on its nose) and car balance rather than outright speeds. Check out each others lines, see what works and doesn't, or follow someone that knows what they're doing, even if their car is slower.

                          Hope that helps.
                          excellent advice! these events aren't about all out speed, they're about having some fun out on the track and getting a feel for the car.

                          traction control will be marginally slower, but it will save your car if you make a serious misjudgement. having said that, it's good to learn to drive without it, just don't push too hard.

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                          • i'd say, try a few laps with the TC on, then try some laps without TC. this will let you learn the limits of your car.

                            i found without TC on it was more fun on track, less electronic intervention.

                            the stability system stays on anyway, regardless of the TC on or off (in Mk6 GTI pre MY2012).
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                            • Originally posted by mikk View Post
                              excellent advice! these events aren't about all out speed, they're about having some fun out on the track and getting a feel for the car.

                              traction control will be marginally slower, but it will save your car if you make a serious misjudgement. having said that, it's good to learn to drive without it, just don't push too hard.
                              This and what Sean said cover exactly what these events are about.


                              I hope you will bring that Camera with you again Mikk.
                              I am bringing one for a POV and one for a trackside flyby.
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                              • the armcos are very close to the track at places and there aren't a lot of run offs. Lakeside is a pretty flowy track so you are not likely to tragger traction control. i have taken my GTI out for a few of these fun runs and never got much electronic intervention so my TC will stay on.

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