VW Nationals Wrapup and Photos

[rayray086]

Custom wheels for $500 is pretty damn good!

[evorobin]

That Rocco is the tits can't believe I forgot it was out there and missed it

[mikinoz]

look like it is selling time for the rieger kitted golf mk1 and scirocco. i tought that the owners give up the vw show long time ago.
awesome cars non less,they have been around for a while now

Your saying the red MK1 and the yellow Scirocco are for sale?

[Jmac]

The Yellow rocco is well finished, not my cup of tea but really well done , would never knock it and should have been in the line up for sure. Im way over the bulk kits but take my hat off if they are done right just like the rocco
Jmac

[twin eng, twin turbs]

The yellow rocco was really clean, paint was perfect, underneath it was very tidy aswell along with a black leather interior. The wheels are OZ racing, would have liked to meet the owner and check out the 2litre 16v turbo setup... It was for sale last year on car sales.

[BALLR]

Just curious, how much of the work did you do yourself?

None LOL...X Customs were the guys involved first up who originally paint the car black, did my suspension, install the stereo...

then i went to the best (like they say, "you've been with the rest, now your with the best")...Queen Street Customs.

They did the paint work, got me the wheels, sprayed the wheels, they did the interior and re-tuned my stereo. The only thing i do with the car myself is service and clean it

If you saw my paint, you can clearly see why they have one of Australia's Top Painters there... To be honest, i wouldnt take my car anywhere else. They know excatly what they are doing, he is been doing it for well over 10 years. They are always coming up with new creative ideas for cars...

[RB25]

Well if thats the case, I wouldn't be so bitter that you didn't take home a trophy.

Just my $0.02

[-Dell-]

Opinions aside (I do respect other people's thoughts) and going only slightly off-topic, I disagree with you on that. While doing the work to your car is rewarding and comparatively cheap a lack of skills, tools, experience, knowledge, advice and all sorts of other things can be extremely demotivating. No idea what you drive (if you drive?) so I don't know if you've gone through this process of doing things yourself, but I myself don't have the guts to attempt a lot of things that need fixing on my car. Imagine being Kevin, trying to sort out the extremely intricate paint job or re-trim. I know for sure I'd palm it off to a workshop to finish, complete with their own arsenal of equipment and trained workers

[tommymac]

Opinions aside (I do respect other people's thoughts) and going only slightly off-topic, I disagree with you on that. While doing the work to your car is rewarding and comparatively cheap a lack of skills, tools, experience, knowledge, advice and all sorts of other things can be extremely demotivating. No idea what you drive (if you drive?) so I don't know if you've gone through this process of doing things yourself, but I myself don't have the guts to attempt a lot of things that need fixing on my car. Imagine being Kevin, trying to sort out the extremely intricate paint job or re-trim. I know for sure I'd palm it off to a workshop to finish, complete with their own arsenal of equipment and trained workers

Retrims and paint is fair enough, however paint and retrim will not win you a show because anyone can do it these days. The show is looking for innovative designs with engine mods etc etc - and yes I can say that RB has done a lot of work with me and yes we both drive and yes my car is the only one is Australia at this point.

[Preen59]

I do agree. Doing work yourself= Much more rewarding. The ONLY mechanical stuff i don't do is engine machinework, because i don't have the equipment. But the guy that does it for me does it to my specification.

I agree that trimming the interior and paint needs to be done by a pro, but we did the velor head lining etc in my Mk1 and I challenge you to pick the difference between a pro job and mine.

Having things clean and fitting properly is the most important part of the VW Nationals scoring system..


If you ask me, Queen st have a big name and they do a good job, but i wouldn't say they do the best job for the money you pay.

[MiKe1_golf]

so is there going to be a tropy for most excessive use of oil hose next year?

[Golf Loon]

Retrims and paint is fair enough, however paint and retrim will not win you a show because anyone can do it these days. The show is looking for innovative designs with engine mods etc etc - and yes I can say that RB has done a lot of work with me and yes we both drive and yes my car is the only one is Australia at this point.

Unfortunately this is not the case. The old judging criteria said that either a car is standard or modified and then in those subcategories they are judged on fit and finish. basically cleanliness. When I was organizing the judging last year, we used a new criteria that gave points for difficulty of mods and the whole finished package. Unfortunately this does not seem to have been used this year by the judges and I will be bringing this up at the post nats club vee dub meeting. Feel free to come along. Its the third thursday of this month at yagoona in the evening.

My problem with the old jusdging criteria is that how many standard mk3s are there and who even cares??? Would you want to judge lots of standard Mk3????

The other problem is that if you have fitted different wheels and the car is otherwise stock, it is classed as modified and has to compete with cars like tommies on a playing field that just judges fit and finish. personally if i am looking at a lightly modded Mk2 and one with a crazy engine swop, the crazy one wins regardless of whether he has vacuumed the carpet or not.

[Jarred]

i wonder how the judge for modified aircooled?

we all know the system is based on cleanliness and presentation, after all it is a show and shine. If we want it to change, we have to attend club meetings and put forth and appropriate (well what we think is better) judging criteria!

I'd actually be interested to hear of some other judging criteria that could be used for the show (excluding peoples choice).

eg, wether a car's theme is consistant throught all it's modifications? Only problem is, as soon as you bring 'taste' into it, it becomes a personal choice for the judges.

(hope that all made sense, my brain is scattered from studying!)

[RB25]

I can understand that judging a show of this nature would be very difficult. In most circumstances, the judges are not comparing 'apples with apples' but more like 'apples with all the ingredients of a fruit salad'.

Personally, I just have a problem with so many of the cars that were at the Nats'. Owners drive them into a workshop, hand over vast amounts of cash and drive out the other side. Sure, the results are often wonderful, but anyone can do that.

It would be like Masterchef contestants buying Thai take-away and giving that to Matt Preston. Their dish might look the best, but the credit isn't theirs for the taking.

[badgerboards]

I can understand that judging a show of this nature would be very difficult. In most circumstances, the judges are not comparing 'apples with apples' but more like 'apples with all the ingredients of a fruit salad'.

Personally, I just have a problem with so many of the cars that were at the Nats'. Owners drive them into a workshop, hand over vast amounts of cash and drive out the other side. Sure, the results are often wonderful, but anyone can do that.

It would be like Masterchef contestants buying Thai take-away and giving that to Matt Preston. Their dish might look the best, but the credit isn't theirs for the taking.

I did the most I could to mine by myself but for paint for instance, I lack the professional skills tools to that, my friend did it for me but I assisted were I could. Interior and stereo is all me minus the seats that I don't have the equipment to sew leather. My car is my taste it's what I want how I want which is probably why alot of people don't like it but it doesn't phase me cAuse if we were All the same it would be boring. I'm anal about my money and don't pay for work I could easily do with a bit of practice.
My 2 cents