Highway Patrol program

[schoona]

I know you aren't stabbing. All good in the hood over here.

Some roads may be privatised, they were privatised so the gov't didnt have to foot the bill because it didn't have the money. With better management it could have been left in its entirety to the relevant gov't departments.

I guess I'm on the cater for one, cater for all wagon.

I don't know how anyone can support drifting the RNP at all. That is certainly at the extreme side of stupidty, though it is evident a lot of people do it. Enough to make note of.

[Preen59]

I would be happy to pay to go to a racetrack and have some fun, not have to worry. Unfortunately it is that hard to implement it becasue it encourages hoon behavior. The best option for us was oran park, which is in the middle of being sub-divided. Leaving EC. Newcastle should be able to have something to cater for enthusiasts of this nature. As for the "hoons" in sydney, melbourne and brisbane who have greater access to a track, I cant speak for them obviously.

Sure the initial cost would be high, but offset tha with hopefully less personnel/equipment/planes required and offer the service at a reasonable rate and it will pay off, eventually.

Go buy a Gokart. Newcastle has one of the best facilities in the country.

[Preen59]

I'm not having a stab at you, I just don't like it when people brand the cops in such ways.

I too don't agree with toll roads! $5 to use the M2, that's nuts! However that's something the government really has no control over. The tollways (apart from the M4 as of the end of this week) is in Private hands.

Although I don't agree the government should foot the bill for a race track, and to tell you the truth I find it a piss poor excuse for "hooning" on the road. I troll other forums outside the VW forums and take for instance that guy drifting around the RNP. Those forums, most people were supporting the idiot and blaming the government that it doesn't make drifting tracks. WTF!

Goes back to your last comment why should the government invest in a purpose built track when there are numerous other projects it could spend it on.

Choosing the correct one is where the problem is!

It should never have been put into private hands to start with!


They have a perfect facility at Eastern Creek. Yet they choose to spend 40 million dollars on a street race with 2 corners that yields NO long term benefits! Imagine what they could have done with Eastern Creek with 40 ****ing million dollars!

[GTom]

Some roads may be privatised, they were privatised so the gov't didnt have to foot the bill because it didn't have the money. With better management it could have been left in its entirety to the relevant gov't departments.

It's not just the money side of things, a large reason for this is also risk management.

Perfect examples - Cross City Tunnel and the Epping to Chatswood railway.

1 was managed by Private company the other by a government Authority.

Cross City tunnel went belly up not many people use it if Private cons. put up big Cap Ex and didn't get projected return once it opened, which to an extent has no real impact on the government

The railway line has had alot of problems, the acoustics in the tunnel are very high and sometimes border on not falling within standards. the material used to affix the rail lines to the concrete in some parts failed and they had to re-lay parts of the track. The gradient of the tunnel in some parts was too steep to have newer rolling stock to use it. Which in turn has a knock on effect with as the newer rolling stock has better insulation from outside noise. All of which came solely out of the governments pockets!

[schoona]

Go buy a Gokart. Newcastle has one of the best facilities in the country.

I'll give you that one. Sugarloaf is quite tidy

[schoona]

It's not just the money side of things, a large reason for this is also risk management.

Perfect examples - Cross City Tunnel and the Epping to Chatswood railway.

1 was managed by Private company the other by a government Authority.

Cross City tunnel went belly up not many people use it if Private cons. put up big Cap Ex and didn't get projected return once it opened, which to an extent has no real impact on the government

The railway line has had alot of problems, the acoustics in the tunnel are very high and sometimes border on not falling within standards. the material used to affix the rail lines to the concrete in some parts failed and they had to re-lay parts of the track. The gradient of the tunnel in some parts was too steep to have newer rolling stock to use it. Which in turn has a knock on effect with as the newer rolling stock has better insulation from outside noise. All of which came solely out of the governments pockets!

I can cop the risk management. Though..

Go to your OH&S laws, I value them because I have been made aware of the dangers associated with my place of work (underground).

Looking macro at it, it certainly appears to be a blame passing game, start from the top and work down, thereby taking on an initial responsibility, then wiping oyurself clean of it.

Sure for matters of high importance, accountability can still land you in court, to testify at least.

Why do we have to accept responsibility of our own actions, each and every one of them, when the gov't can then say "we can't manage the roads this city needs, we will sell out to the private sector."

"Not my problem"

[Mrk_Mickey]

The vehicle provides a buffer between traffic and the police on the road speaking to the driver of the vehicle.

It's not silly if your life is at stake...... The road is a dangerous place. I've almost been hit (on purpose) a few times.

In this instance he had pulled over and ordered the driver to stand and talk to him on the footpath. And I've also seen a cop nearly swiped by someone swerving past the tail of the patrol car not seeing the cop behind it. IMO, they need to think of a better way of doing it.

[GTom]

In this instance he had pulled over and ordered the driver to stand and talk to him on the footpath. And I've also seen a cop nearly swiped by someone swerving past the tail of the patrol car not seeing the cop behind it. IMO, they need to think of a better way of doing it.

I'm starting to sound like Maverick here so final one!

That's because a person can't be on the road. The officer still needs to be protected when he is speaking to the driver.

I don't see why it needs to be changed. If you get a chance (and a lot of time) RTA have a manual that lists all standard traffic control plans (of course if you have the necessary tickets you can write or modify your own). The 5-10 minute works when working on a road always (apart from a couple) involve there being a barrier vehicle of some sort between the worker and traffic. The only one that doesn't is the patch works TCP where you have a spotter 50-100m down the road checking if there is any on coming traffic.

That said Police don't have to abide by RTAs manual as such.

[Highlander]

Good Cops

I think any cop that drives a GOLF with APR Tuned Stage 1 ... H&R RSB and FSB ... HPA KW SHS Coilovers ... Whiteline Anti Lift Kit ... Whiteline Bushing Kit would have to be a good cop.

[GTom]

I think any cop that drives a GOLF with APR Tuned Stage 1 ... H&R RSB and FSB ... HPA KW SHS Coilovers ... Whiteline Anti Lift Kit ... Whiteline Bushing Kit would have to be a good cop.

I would too But if you're implying that I'm a cop, you're sorely mistaken. Just because someone on the cops side doesn't mean they're a cop

[dado]

with the next year budget they are on the way to double the fine revenue .look out they are out for the money