weird car sale experience

[jfoldbar]

i had a very weird car sale experience. i would prefer to post in van section, but i think its more relevant here.

i think it may be possible the same entity has bought other cars like this. so if anyone has had this experience please contact me. it may be nothing but just damn curious.

i will only say enough info for anyone that had same experience to realize. please dont respond to this unless you think it also happened to you.

this was not a scam, it was something else. but dont know what

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was paid in full by bank deposit(S). (if it happened to you , you will know what i mean)
have no idea who gave me money or who/what i sold car to
didnt meet a single person throughout whole transaction
if this has happened to anyone else recently, please contact me.
thankyou

and before you ask, i have considered calling the police or terrorist hotline regarding my experience. but i cant 'actually' be sure that anything was wrong. it just appears wrong.

[Guest001]

So if you didnt meet anyone how did the car depart and are the transfer papers filed in and deposited with TMR.

[Lucas_R]

That is odd - but I guess if you have received the money then you are in the clear?!?!

So has the car actually been picked up yet (even if it was a transport company that collected it).

Same question as above, what have you done with the rego papers and the RMS? They need to be transferred over to "someone".

[tigger73]

Just need to file the disposal notice and send the other half with the car.

Personally I would have deregistered the car similar to selling interstate if they wanted completely non-contact.

That way there’s nothing to come back on you.


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[Guest001]

Also I hope it wasnt a Paypal deposit as there is a scam going with that where they show a deposit and it actually is a fake notice

[VW Convert]

was paid in full by bank deposit(S). (if it happened to you , you will know what i mean)
have no idea who gave me money or who/what i sold car to
didnt meet a single person throughout whole transaction

What would concern me in all of this is the fact that the onus is on the registered owner to notify the RMS of the disposal of the vehicle and advise the new owner's details. If you don't know who you sold the vehicle to, you are unable to do that.

[jfoldbar]

i also posted this on another forum. and i already have 180 replies of curious human minds. so will tell enough details to satisfy curiosity. there will be some stuff i cant say though

so to answer a few questions,

i dropped the car off to a location (scrubbed out on google maps)requested by new owner. key was hidden for him to find. papers were inside.
i lodged notice of disposal with rms before i took it there.
the "company name" on notice was just a number. (google cant find)
the "address" on the notice, is a train station in sydney cbd
the "address" of company owner (human name) is the same address as train station, but in a small town behind the black stump.
i received money in full prior. as cash deposits to my account. i immediately transferred money out, to different bank

[zed]

i also posted this on another forum. and i already have 180 replies of curious human minds. so will tell enough details to satisfy curiosity. there will be some stuff i cant say though

so to answer a few questions,

i dropped the car off to a location (scrubbed out on google maps)requested by new owner. key was hidden for him to find. papers were inside.
i lodged notice of disposal with rms before i took it there.
the "company name" on notice was just a number. (google cant find)
the "address" on the notice, is a train station in sydney cbd
the "address" of company owner (human name) is the same address as train station, but in a small town behind the black stuff.
i received money in full prior. as cash deposits to my account. i immediately transferred money out, to different bank

That is freaKing bizarre.

[Lellore]

But do you have any kind of written agreement exchange by mail or email? When I used to live in my property in Germany I sold one car like this, literally I got paid through a bank transfer and send key by local express post. But the title of the car was transferred later and it was ok, I had no issues.

[Mk3 AAA]

This is very odd and on face value (and without experience in fraud outside of sitting through some related hearings) I see it as much more likely to be something fishy than not. My guess is you've been the victim of a laundering exercise and the funds you've received are proceeds of crime. Either that or your former car is off to do something illegal, with you as the last real human owner, or already has.

Surely you had contact with a human at some point and some connection can be made using the phone number they used or email or bank account?

So you have thousands of dollars in your account that you don't really know the origin of?

You could see if you can make enquires using the VIN or number plates to see if the car is still registered for a start. Or run a PPR search on it to see if an interest has been registered against it (more for clues than anything else).

To be honest this situation sends a shiver down my spine.

I hope you're all good and I'm just being a cynic but please be critical of these sorts of transactions and protect yourself more thoroughly in future.

I don't know much about this sort of thing. But if you need help strategising I'd be happy to give you my 2c for all they're worth (probably only 1c).

If it were me I'd be taking two approaches:
1. Making efforts or recording information that distances me from the car. Every little detail about the transaction, save every ad you've had up, and do every follow up incl the disposal paper work, cancellation of rego etc ...what ever needs to be done.
2. Proactively but discretely trying to get clarity on the situation. Search email addresses that were used, addresses, people, phone numbers what ever trail they left. Google the location even it may have been used before. - I'd do what I can safely - report what ought to be reported and let whatever relevant authority know (police?)

Not advice. Possibly paranoid and over- thinking it. Food for thought.

[tigger73]

To be honest I’d just let sleeping dogs lie. He’s done all he needed to as a seller. Why would you go investigating a potential criminal organisation?

Honestly it sounds like you’re dealing with someone from another country that doesn’t know anything about Australian customs or way things are done here.

Probably the only other thing you could have did me is unregister the car, take the plates off and leave it there on a permit.

Truth is you’ll never know and a number of scenarios you never want to know. Just as long as you don’t get dragged into something later but as the previous poster said just keep all the hard evidence you can of it so you have a solid story if anything comes back at you later.


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[The_Hawk]

It's done now so there isn't too much you can do at this point. Even dealing with an extreme germaphobe in a non contact way due to COVID19 this still is a little odd.

If you had taken it all at face value and walked away that would be one thing... but now you know the names/addresses don't quite add up it starts to make me wonder at what point you actually *should* be doing something about it?!?! On one hand, there is no obvious crime here. You sold a car, received payment, then followed (semi) reasonable directions which due to COVID19 may be reasonable.

Checking beyond that makes you ask questions... I mean you could lodge a police report... but for what? As tigger has said, keep all the documentation of what happened, save it for the (hopefully never) later that ever comes.

Could that number of been a drivers licence number and they have confused what they are putting into the form?

[Matt86]

It's done now so there isn't too much you can do at this point. Even dealing with an extreme germaphobe in a non contact way due to COVID19 this still is a little odd.

If you had taken it all at face value and walked away that would be one thing... but now you know the names/addresses don't quite add up it starts to make me wonder at what point you actually *should* be doing something about it?!?! On one hand, there is no obvious crime here. You sold a car, received payment, then followed (semi) reasonable directions which due to COVID19 may be reasonable.

Checking beyond that makes you ask questions... I mean you could lodge a police report... but for what? As tigger has said, keep all the documentation of what happened, save it for the (hopefully never) later that ever comes.

Could that number of been a drivers licence number and they have confused what they are putting into the form?

As above, it seems strange and a good one to make the community aware of.

You got the money and sold the car, did all the paperwork in the correct manner. There's no point in chasing it up after the fact, if anything ever happens you need to post here so others don't follow the same path at all.

Don't look into it and don't look back, that way if anything were to happen you can claim negligence.. I mean you literally sold a car for cash payment, their details are their responsibility and not yours. As long as you've sorted the rego, etc out I don't really see any issue.