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  • #61
    At some point there will be a list of affected part numbers released, so if you do infact have an airbag that falls within range, it'll be up to you to chase it up.
    '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
    '01 Beetle 2.0

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    • #62
      Originally posted by frantic View Post
      This is where you’ve missed the point , a model like golf, comes standard with several different trim options . So if you fit a golf R wheel, to a tdi, it’s still adr compliant as they all hook up to the same sensor sets. And quite possibly have the same airbag and activator inside.
      As far as recording the change, put down model x was refitted with abc airbag and wheel cover style 35.
      Give them a call and ask them and get back to us with their answer.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by frantic View Post
        This is where you’ve missed the point , a model like golf, comes standard with several different trim options . So if you fit a golf R wheel, to a tdi, it’s still adr compliant as they all hook up to the same sensor sets. And quite possibly have the same airbag and activator inside.
        As far as recording the change, put down model x was refitted with abc airbag and wheel cover style 35.
        While your logic is simple and should make sense, it's actually no longer compliant. If you change a component for a different specced version you loose compliance, even if the new component is compliant in another similar vehicle. Compliance is for the vehicle and fitted parts that left the factory.
        2015 Jetta Highline
        2017 Ducati Supersport S

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        • #64
          Loose compliance. As opposed to tight compliance?

          You don't lose compliance by changing a steering wheel to a steering wheel that is compliant in another model the same as yours. I.e. Golf to Golf.

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          • #65
            Stop the arguing and give them a call, job done. Let us know what they say and we can all sleep better, actually I won't lose sleep because my car is not affected and it has the supplied steering wheel.

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            • #66
              I've emailed them with a part number and serial number.
              Will post their response.

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              2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
              2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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              • #67
                From VW:
                "I have been in touch with my Parts department, however unfortunately, I have been advised that in order to answer your enquiry, we will need to wait until the list of affected vehicles is released, so that we are then able to compare the Part number you have provided.

                At this stage, I have not been given an estimated time to expect this list, so I would encourage you to touch base with Volkswagen Group Australia again in the near future."
                2011 Skoda Octavia vRS TDI DSG wagon|Revo Stage 1|Race Blue|Leather|Dynamic Xenons w 6000K|9w7 BT|THA475 Amp+active sub|Whiteline ALK|RVC|
                2009 R36 wagon|Biscay Blue|RVC|Tailgate|ECU and DSG tune|LED DRL/Indicators|3D colour cluster|Quad LED tail rings|Climatronics upgrade|Dynaudio retrofit|B7 RLine Flat Steering Wheel|3AA CCM|TPMS Direct|B7 Adaptive Cruise with Front Assist|Discover Media retrofit|PLA 2.0|Lane Assist|BCM retrofit|High Beam Assist|DQ500

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Rocket36 View Post
                  Loose compliance. As opposed to tight compliance?

                  You don't lose compliance by changing a steering wheel to a steering wheel that is compliant in another model the same as yours. I.e. Golf to Golf.
                  If your logic was correct you could replace the 110KW motor with R36 running gear and still be complaint.

                  No, compliance means as it left the factory.
                  2015 Jetta Highline
                  2017 Ducati Supersport S

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                  • #69
                    Think of it this way...

                    Cars are not tested to make sure they comply with Australian Design Rules, the manufacturer certifies they comply. So, in this case, VW certifies that the steering wheel and airbag are compliant. When someone swaps the wheel and airbag the certification no longer applies. It's a different wheel and VW cannot guarantee the installation is correct. To maintain compliance with the ADRs the new installation will need to be certified.

                    It seems a bit silly when the replacement part is just from an up specced model, the part should be compliant. But it's not, including because VW has no control over the quality of the part (was it new or come from a wreck) or how it was installed.
                    2015 Jetta Highline
                    2017 Ducati Supersport S

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                    • #70
                      Which would then also means that anytime we fit non-genuine replacement parts to our vehicles, the vehicles are no-longer compliant . . .
                      1997 Golf CL, 2011 Caddy Life TDI, 2007 Golf TDI, 1996 Vento GL (red), 2008 Skoda Octavia TDI
                      1996 Vento GL (white) - RIP

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                      • #71
                        VW's knowledge of your car only extends to how it left the factory, and any subsequent warranty repairs.

                        To assume that they're going to send you a letter about the used airbag you retro-fitted from another car, is naive at best. The onus is on you the owner, to chase that one up, as per above.
                        '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
                        '01 Beetle 2.0

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by theresanothersteve View Post
                          If your logic was correct you could replace the 110KW motor with R36 running gear and still be complaint.

                          No, compliance means as it left the factory.
                          Originally posted by theresanothersteve View Post
                          Think of it this way...

                          Cars are not tested to make sure they comply with Australian Design Rules, the manufacturer certifies they comply. So, in this case, VW certifies that the steering wheel and airbag are compliant. When someone swaps the wheel and airbag the certification no longer applies. It's a different wheel and VW cannot guarantee the installation is correct. To maintain compliance with the ADRs the new installation will need to be certified.

                          It seems a bit silly when the replacement part is just from an up specced model, the part should be compliant. But it's not, including because VW has no control over the quality of the part (was it new or come from a wreck) or how it was installed.
                          You have no idea. Your two posts prove that. No further pointless arguing will be entered into.

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                          • #73
                            It's interesting that the Golfs are listed in the affected vehicles, but the Jettas are not. Aren't they the same steering wheel and airbag layout?
                            Richard
                            2007 Black Jetta 103TDI Manual, 18s, body kit + rear spoiler
                            2001 Landcruiser FZJ105 Manual - The petrol guzzler!

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                            • #74
                              I gave VW a buzz and they directed me to their online FAQ. They start by somewhat playing down the risk by stating that the 'alpha' Takata airbag is the unit that has been killing people and that no volksys in Aus are equiped with the 'alpha'. But, it then goes on to say that the non-alpha airbags, older than 6 years, pose a risk of killing you if they go off. So yeah, looks like a number of us have a ticking time bomb. The person I spoke to said they hope to start notifying owners in the next month. Don't go stacking your car in the meantime.
                              Model Airbag Affected No. of Affected Vehicles
                              MK 6 Golf (MY 2009-2013) Driver 35,817
                              MK 6 Golf Cabriolet (MY 2012-2015) Driver 2,256
                              B7 Passat (MY 2011-2015) Driver 17,741
                              B6 Passat (MY 2010) Driver 2,509
                              A4 Polo (MY 2007-2009) Driver 3,952
                              A5 Polo (MY 2010-2014) Driver 5,730
                              CC (MY 2009-2016) Driver 4,461
                              Eos (MY 2010-2014) Driver 3,112
                              Up (MY 2013-2014) Driver 2,296
                              Transporter and Multivan (MY 2008-2015) Driver 18,245
                              Crafter (MY 2006-2016) Driver 6,234
                              Crafter (MY 2006-2016) Passenger (6,234 driver side and 4,451 passenger side)
                              Last edited by brettue; 13-03-2018, 12:14 PM.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Cheezel View Post
                                It's interesting that the Golfs are listed in the affected vehicles, but the Jettas are not. Aren't they the same steering wheel and airbag layout?
                                Depends on the plant the vehicle was assembled in, and depends where that plant sourced its components from.
                                Cheers

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