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  • T6 Transporter/Multivan/Caravelle

    Somehow, I can't believe that VW would not give us to choose the transmission option?

    It seems, that the one can have any configuration, as long as it is with the 7sp. DSG.

    Then, perhaps they should put 10years warranty on the DSG. What do you guys think?
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    The days of car manufacturer offering manual's is almost over with higher emission targets.

    Come Euro 7 spec, it'll be hard to find a manual.

    As for the 10 year warranty, yes there should be a 10 year drive line warranty, they should stand behind there product, as a manual is normally almost bullet proof other than the clutch.
    2017 VW T6 3200KG GVM LWB 132kW 7 Speed DSG (Campervan Conversion)

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    • #3
      Manual Multivans and Caravelles in the T5 and T5GP weren't that common anyway.

      Besides, the 7-speed DQ500 DSG is not a bad thing. Failures are fairly uncommon.
      '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
      '01 Beetle 2.0

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Umai Naa!! View Post
        Manual Multivans and Caravelles in the T5 and T5GP weren't that common anyway.

        Besides, the 7-speed DQ500 DSG is not a bad thing. Failures are fairly uncommon.
        Not so great for the long term reliability and trouble free.
        Why would I pay more for the DSG and then pay again when it's old and needs rebuild or an expensive repair?

        The fuel economy from 4x4 Sprinter


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        My long term average is 9L/100km
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        • #5
          I,m with you Transporter seems wrong to restrict the options that are probably available overseas but not here in Australia , the new T6 is available in Europe with the 2.0 petrol Turbo probably more reliable and less expensive than the DPF equipped diesel that lots complain about with known problems . As for the DSG I am not convinced its going to be a long term reliable box , but as a victim of the Tiptronic I am very cautious with our DSG van . I just cannot be convinced that it will be a reliable box considering all the electronics inside , ours has already had problems when it was near new . Some may not realise that the DSG was a huge problem on several continents , yes I know the van DSG is a different one to other VW models . But when you read how the Chinese Government made VW give owners a ten year warranty after the debacle in half a million DSG equipped VWs , it makes you wonder how we are going to be treated down the track .

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Transporter View Post
            Not so great for the long term reliability and trouble free.
            Why would I pay more for the DSG and then pay again when it's old and needs rebuild or an expensive repair?

            The fuel economy from 4x4 Sprinter


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            My long term average is 9L/100km
            Given that barn doors are becoming very, very rare on the Transporter range, I had a look at the Crafter.
            Manual only and they just had a price drop on the base model.
            The downside I read was that they are shifting production from Germany to Poland this year.

            2016 Volkswagen Crafter to Be Built in Wrzesnia, Poland - autoevolution
            2018 Crafter Runner
            2012 T5.1 6sp manual.
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            • #7
              Go to the VW UK configuration site and you'll fall over in disbelief at what is available and how limiting VWAust is.

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              • #8
                I may have mentioned this somewhere else so forgive me, coffee hasn't kicked in yet, ...I rang VW Aust last month and asked that considering Euro6 is a requirement in Aust for any vehicle built after a set date later in 2017 will the TDI 450 be offered in Transporters?

                I said I will wait and delay my purchase if so. The answer was 2 engines are being evaluated however I couldn't be told which ones they were. Now obviously in the UK a 110KW and 150Kw TDI Euro6 options are offered and the 150kW is already offered in Multivans here, so it's not exactly a top secret situation. I couldn't see VW only offering the 110kw and a lower power unit similar to the current Runner offering, but you never know. It would however leave them well behind the Vito 119's 140Kw. The Vito locally also offers a factory fitted 30/70 split fold and roll forward/completely removable 2nd row bench which VW also offers but only overseas.
                Last edited by Tornado T5; 14-01-2017, 07:42 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LogicprObe View Post
                  Given that barn doors are becoming very, very rare on the Transporter range, I had a look at the Crafter.
                  Manual only and they just had a price drop on the base model.
                  The downside I read was that they are shifting production from Germany to Poland this year.

                  2016 Volkswagen Crafter to Be Built in Wrzesnia, Poland - autoevolution
                  I'd wait for the new Crafter if possible, 8 speed conventional auto, far better looking and some great features if the local bananas decide to offer them.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                    Not so great for the long term reliability and trouble free.
                    Why would I pay more for the DSG and then pay again when it's old and needs rebuild or an expensive repair?
                    As repairs become more & more expensive & cars/vans depreciate faster, there will be a pile of scrapped cars waiting to be crushed.
                    Maybe, with electric vans just around the corner it's inevitable anyway.
                    In the case of the T4, the youngest being around 13 years, there is increasing interest in conversion to manual trans.
                    In the UK there are some available from the wreckers, but in the US they have to go back to a '93 to find a manual donor.
                    I am prepared for the future. All my cars/van are manual that will probably last until they take my licence away.
                    Last edited by jets; 14-01-2017, 10:03 AM.
                    Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
                    2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
                    Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tornado T5 View Post
                      I'd wait for the new Crafter if possible, 8 speed conventional auto, far better looking and some great features if the local bananas decide to offer them.
                      That Crafter will be with the east/west engine configuration, unless you want to wait even longer for the RWD variant. The 4Mo will also be the east/west set up, so unless it's superb vehicle, I'll be driving my Sprinter 4x4 for a bit longer until something crops up, maybe the Rockton will come to Au again. But, I know for sure that I'll never buy 4motion T6 with the DSG with the 3 years warranty only.
                      When there is an Iveco with the manual box, 205PS/470Nm 3.0L TDI, built on the proper chassis and can be had with RWD and factory diff lock, or full blown 4x4 with 3 diff locks and 2 reduction gearboxes.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jets View Post
                        As repairs become more & more expensive & cars/vans depreciate faster, there will be a pile of scrapped cars waiting to be crushed.
                        Maybe, with electric vans just around the corner it's inevitable anyway.
                        In the case of the T4, the youngest being around 13 years, there is increasing interest in conversion to manual trans.
                        In the UK there are some available from the wreckers, but in the US they have to go back to a '93 to find a manual donor.
                        I am prepared for the future. All my cars/van are manual that will probably last until they take my licence away.
                        I agree the manuals are pretty bullet proof just a shame they mated it to that diabolical DMF thingy , my T5 work horse has now over 300000kays and its married to the pitiful 2.0 litre petrol engine { VW should have fitted a turbo like the new T6 in Europe has } but at least after 300000 kays it has only cost me one clutch kit around $600 . Unlike our previous family van where its Tiptronic failed after only 120000 kays at around $8500 for a non genuine rebuild { $12500 dealer price } DSG ? well the jury is out but I am still incredibly vigilant with our current one after it faltered twice at only two weeks old .

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                        • #13
                          Just about any Euro diesel will have a DMF these days.
                          You'd be pretty lucky if you got a petrol T6 in Australia.
                          I think they are special order.
                          2018 Crafter Runner
                          2012 T5.1 6sp manual.
                          2024 Crafter Auto

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LogicprObe View Post
                            Just about any Euro diesel will have a DMF these days.
                            You'd be pretty lucky if you got a petrol T6 in Australia.
                            I think they are special order.
                            I was initially thinking of ordering a petrol T6 but Volkswagen Australia told me they can't be ordered.

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                            • #15
                              Yes it seems that VW Australia have once again misread the market expectations of Australian drivers , for years we were bombarded by the economy of the diesel engines so every man and his dog got on board offering diesels in almost every brand . Now it seems that some of the new generation petrol engines can be just as economical and less polluting than diesels T6 turbo petrol as a case in question . But again Australian buyers are not given the option . I noticed in a video that came out when the T6 was released in late 2015 a reviewer in Germany even stated some models of the diesel equipped T6 would be hard pressed to successfully carry the load expected . But if you want an Amarok yes you can get a V6 engine so why not the vans ? lets face it many van owners would probably want to carry or tow similar weights as the Amarok .

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