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  • T4 Starting problem (Electrical ).

    The Van - 94 T4 Petrol 2.5L Manual LWB.
    My ignition switch has a push button start set up as the starter part of my ignition switch is cactus and its been this way for the last 3 years that i have owned it without any problems.
    The problem i'm having just of late is when i switch the ignition on i can hear the fuel pump priming and then when i hit the start button nothing is happening starter motor wise (i do hear the pump priming again as i push the button). Once or twice it has actually started but for the most nothing.
    The battery is a 600 cranking amp battery and reasonably new, the starter was replaced with a new unit, the button was replaced with a better quaility unit, and i have checked every relay & fuse that i can find to no avail.
    Now i simply roll start it(clutch start )and it fires every time and drives perfectly as it always has. Now after warming it up (average 3 to 5 minutes) i can turn it off on the ignition switch, then turn my ignition switch back on, hit the start button and no problem it starts straight away and i have done this repeatedly but if i leave it for 15 to 20 minutes or longer it reverts back to the same no start on the starter button problem again.
    I now have a replacement Ignition switch, matching Immobiliser and ecu that i bought but am wondering is there any relays that are problematic that i should check first as i now realise that changing the ignition ( switch/lock assembly ) & immobiliser inside the dash instrument cluster area is a pain in the arse job so i'm just looking for any imput from others that have had similar issues with their T4's. Thanks Mike.
    Last edited by ocdrbug; 03-01-2017, 06:15 PM.

  • #2
    Haven't owned a T4, but the T4 model has have an issue with a relay when i was researching getting a T4...

    this may be your issue, one of the guys on here will be able to confirm.
    2017 VW T6 3200KG GVM LWB 132kW 7 Speed DSG (Campervan Conversion)

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    • #3
      Yes, there is an ECU relay that craps out on them.
      '07 Transporter 1.9 TDI
      '01 Beetle 2.0

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      • #4
        As Umai says the relay in the fuse box was a known problem , mine used to cut out with no warning once in the middle of an intersection but I was still able to use the starter to move it forward in gear to get clear . Yours sounds different as you have no start signal , the relay problem was something to do with power to the ECU itself .

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        • #5
          Changing ignition switch is fairly easy from what I have read. [Mine is original] Here's a link.

          How to fit a new ignition switch - VW T4 Forum - VW T5 Forum
          Understand how it works, troubleshoot logically BEFORE replacing parts.
          2001 T4 TRAKKA Syncro 2.5TDI,2006 Mk5 2.0TDI Golf manual,2001 Polo 1.4 16V manual [now sold], '09 2.0CR TDI Tiguan manual,
          Numerous Mk1 Golf diesels

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          • #6
            Does anyone know what the numbers for the relays are as the workshop manual i have is very vague in the electrical section and with regard to identifying specific relays by the numbers on them and their location ( in the fuse box area or else where ). Any help appreciated guys.

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            • #7
              I have had one where the switch on the back of the barrel was completely melted. After talking to a guy at a VW workshop he said that he has seen a couple where the starter shorts out and that feeds back to the switch causing it to over heat., so it could be worth checking the switch out.

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