Do anyone still change the oil after the first 1000km on a new diesel?

[Sunny43.5]

I agree with Weonarok {Dave } driving situations would be a better indicator of when oil should be changed , the problem with ALL car makers today is that their testing is flawed for starters . The BS about driving cars for 3 weeks in the Nevada summer will never ever relate to real world driving , you only have to look at the debacle of the sealed for life autos . NO one is ever going to convince me that ANY oil / fluid will maintain its viscocity inside an engine or gearbox without some level of decay over time . The words of VW Australias famous head honcho speech to some motoring journos still rings in my head . He was questioned on why VW had recalled 65000 Golfs with DSG autos in Japan . No similar recall was offered for Australians and his answer was the best example of someone shooting themselves in both feet at the same time with one bullet . His answer to the journos "you have to realise Japan is different to Australia it has a hot climate with lots of stop start motoring " Oh dear he should have thought out that answer before opening his mouth , so hot climate not catered for by the testers proved that they don't bother to acknowledge that real world is very different . I know that when I am planning a long trip for work I will change the oil if its been a while since its last service .

[Bryn23]

I still can't believe VW though it was a good idea to have any kind of sealed unit with fluids in it

The must of kept the same engineers that though emissions cheating was a good idea

It does come down to driving conditions though, every car manual I've read has a comment about extreme conditions an the need to change earlier, eta

At also comes down to your beliefs and experiences, none are right or wrong, its your car, your money and your time.

I noticed the new ford mustangs have smart oil sensors, people are getting 3500-7000km before being told to get oil changed on the display.

I would imagine that some of these beauties get some sprited driving, which reduces the life of the oil.

[gldgti]

I still can't believe VW though it was a good idea to have any kind of sealed unit with fluids in it

The must of kept the same engineers that though emissions cheating was a good idea

It does come down to driving conditions though, every car manual I've read has a comment about extreme conditions an the need to change earlier, eta

At also comes down to your beliefs and experiences, none are right or wrong, its your car, your money and your time.

I noticed the new ford mustangs have smart oil sensors, people are getting 3500-7000km before being told to get oil changed on the display.

I would imagine that some of these beauties get some sprited driving, which reduces the life of the oil.

Just FYI on "sealed for life":
This originates from a tax that is levied on vehicles produced in the EU based on the amount of servicing that is required over the product lifetime. By not scheduling a transmission fluid change in the vehicles standard service schedule, a portion of the tax is not paid. This also accounts for the longer service intervals for engine oil.

Looking at ot from a corporate accountants perspective, its plain to see why you would do it - simple enough to say that no servicing is required for the warranty period of the vehicle. Even ZF reccommend to change the ATF in their automatics every 60,000miles, which is basically what the warranty period for a VAG group car is.

From their perspective, they dont care what happens after 100,000km.

People thinking all these problems have anything to do with engineers is plain wrong. Ultimately it comes down to the bottom line, and THAT is managed by the accountants...

[Sunny43.5]

Accountants fancy name for penny pinching bunch of *****its .

[Umai Naa!!]

"Sealed for life" does not mean it can't be serviced or maintained.

It means the manufacturer has not indicated a service interval for it.

As the old saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

[Sunny43.5]

True Umai but as a non experienced person at the time of our problem auto we took the dealers word as gospel , it was only a few years later that VW told us that they could be serviced as they were supplied by VW some special tooling to do that very job . If the tooling had been available then we would probably not suffered the complete failure that followed . But then as it transpired the filter inside the box was blocked which lead to its demise . I always maintain VW knew it was a bad decision as we all know that in 2010 they fitted the DSG with a service interval of 60000km and the filter strangely found its way to the OUTSIDE of the box funny that . And like I pointed out earlier the GM of VW AU made that crazy statement about Japans climate while totally ignoring the fact that we also have stop start driving and we live in a HOT climate country . I have watched many documentaries on Japan and not once have I seen any deserts , their summer runs from June to August with average temps of 30c unlike what we experience here for 5 months or more depending on where you live .

[LogicprObe]

I always thought their service schedules for Australia were crap!
Most cars rarely go to 'dusty' environs.