Do anyone still change the oil after the first 1000km on a new diesel?

[Sunny43.5]

Aren't you overthinking this a bit , oil testing etc failures are going to happen for a variety of reasons and oil would probably not be the cause , I had two engines changed by my Ford dealer before my VW days both of them in two vehicles bought years apart were a result of manufacturing faults . How long are you going to keep this one for ? My current work T5 van has clicked over the 306000 km mark and 12 years for a pissy little 2.0 petrol model , I will admit here that it,s oil level gets low from time to time but only a fool would expect similar oil consumption from when it was new . At times when I have heard the first start with a slight rattly sound {indication it needs a top up } I have some times grabbed a container of oil laying around to top it up with which obviously does not have the same numbers VW recommend . The old girl is still going strong despite my sometimes negligent ways HA HA , don't ask about the clutch though a whole new chapter there . Ok some will say well if it had blown up you would only had yourself to blame , well even our other van now sold has 200000 kays on the clock and it has over $18000 worth of repairs required over ten years leaking turbo failed air con compressor failed transmission due to manufacturing fault and design failed intercooler connector due to faulty design so it goes on and on . Car makers aren't yet perfect .

[Bryn23]

Sunny i do overthink things, but i do plan on keeping this van for a while and its small money to have clean oil after the first 1000-2000km.

As for a the oil test, I've seen enough info to see that the CFA bi turbo engine has a few issues, My engine has the modified parts, whether this works or not is to be seen.

But having oil test records can pick up is something is not right, hopefully before failure, and also its written technical record of the elements within the oil, if i ever have to go down the path of good will after warranty.

With most things, preventive measures often reduce more $$$ issues in the future.

Having said that, the engine is just one component, I've seen the issues you have had with your transmission and other bits.

Car makers will never be perfect, we expect to much out of corporations that only care about the bottom line.

[Transporter]

I also change the first oil in transmissions and diffs at 15,000km-20,000km. Very cheap insurance indeed.

[Bryn23]

I also change the first oil in transmissions and diffs at 15,000km-20,000km. Very cheap insurance indeed.

I was looking at doing that as well, as oil is cheap insurance.

I did that with my Can Am Commander SxS motorbike, and the crap that was in the diff oil change was not good, heaps of swarf, i changed it out at 10 hours for initial run in, same with transmission.

Plus after changing to better oils, the noise reduction in the diffs and the smoother transmission change was an added benefit.

[Bryn23]

If anyone needs oil.

I noticed yesterday, that Supercheap Auto have Castrol Edge 5w-30 5 Litre that conforms to VW 507.00 on sale

[LogicprObe]

Last time I tried to buy any 507 spec at Supercheap, Nulon was the only one in stock.
All others were order in.
After that, I just get the Nulon in 20lt drums from my local bloke.
Works out at half the price of buying in 5 lt bottles.

[Bryn23]

Last time I tried to buy any 507 spec at Supercheap, Nulon was the only one in stock.
All others were order in.
After that, I just get the Nulon in 20lt drums from my local bloke.
Works out at half the price of buying in 5 lt bottles.

That 20 ltr drum works out well, it might depend on where the Supercheap is, they had at least 8 tubs of the Castrol when i was in there looking for paint.

i always find with almost everything, if i need it, it isn't on the shelf and when i don't need it there is heaps

[Transporter]

Just keep in mind that even synthetic engine oil has its use by date and it's NOT from the moment you've bought it.

[Kachingg]

Hi guys

I am getting a new diesel alltrack in a month i have a specialist vw mechanic that looks after my familys vw's (5 in family total 4 golf's 1 polo) rang him yesterday and from what he has heard he recomended not changing oil till 15,000km (passing up a easy service charge for him to!) will be getting my new car done by him from new so will take his advice

[aSimpleLife]

...i have a specialist vw mechanic...

Out of curiosity, is that Boris?
If so, he put me back onto 15,000km services when I moved to him...my local mechanic had me down to 10,000km.
After a comment somewhere here from Transporter (I think) about "...Shortening today's long service intervals..." I asked Boris if I should have an extra oil (and filter?) change at say 7,500km...he thought I'd be wasting my money. His philosophy seems to be very much to go by the VW book.
I'm still thinking about doing it anyway.

[Umai Naa!!]

+1 to sticking to the book.

A lot of places say to service it more often. They aren't always interested in the longevity of your engine

[aSimpleLife]

Thanks for the feedback. I always find it very helpful when those more experienced than myself are prepared to offer their input.

There certainly seems to be polar opposite views on this point though....even here.
I understand the comment about non VW specialists.
But I also find it difficult to "trust" VW to be concerned about the life of my engine - they seem to be impervious to any reputation damage regarding the reliability and ongoing cost of their very nice vehicles - it's almost as if they have done a cost benefit analysis and decided it's far more profitable make money on the parts and faster vehicle turnover - and having now climbed to number 1 in the world it would seem they have a point
It's also not so easy for the average punter to measure that reliability and ongoing cost.

In the end I probably will stick to 15k oil changes - mostly because I can't be bothered with the extra effort - and it's not exactly cheap...then I'll whinge my **** off when the engine blows

[Kachingg]

Out of curiosity, is that Boris?
If so, he put me back onto 15,000km services when I moved to him...my local mechanic had me down to 10,000km.
After a comment somewhere here from Transporter (I think) about "...Shortening today's long service intervals..." I asked Boris if I should have an extra oil (and filter?) change at say 7,500km...he thought I'd be wasting my money. His philosophy seems to be very much to go by the VW book.
I'm still thinking about doing it anyway.

No it's not i use Dandy Volks in Dandenong of course lol
Max is a good no nonsense mechanic does a good job and does not bull**** you or do unnecessary work
As for the 7.5k oil change i asked max his opinion is a waste of money the oil in motor should be good for 30k(they run it for 30k in the vans)so even 15k is not stressing it 7.5k is just a waste of money and your time

[weonarok]

Our Golf does the usual 'car' driving which includes the bride's daily drive to work to the occasional road trip, so since new its been on the 15k drip.

However, my Amarok's driving style varies from my daily driver to working its guts out pulling a camper trailer across the Simpson and Fraser etc, so I adjust my oil changes accordingly from the normal 15k down to every 10k if its been doing it hard in hot weather, which is basically what a manual will tell you anyway.

In other words, horses for courses.


"You don't know what you don't know"

Cheers dave

[Bryn23]

Hi guys

I am getting a new diesel alltrack in a month i have a specialist vw mechanic that looks after my familys vw's (5 in family total 4 golf's 1 polo) rang him yesterday and from what he has heard he recomended not changing oil till 15,000km (passing up a easy service charge for him to!) will be getting my new car done by him from new so will take his advice

have no issue with doing 15,000km on the oil if it is easy highway km, but i started there thread regarding the first oil change after 1000km like we use to do.

I've heard that these newer engines are more refined, that may be the case, but there is still often swarf and other crap in the oil from run it, VW also confirmed to me that the oil in from factory isn't a run in oil.

I've see it with my own eyes, on other new engines in the last 12 years (Subaru WRX and Liberty GT, Toyota Hilux SR5, Honda CRV, Can Am SxS and a Honda Outboard)

it only cost me $170 for new oil and filter from the VW dealership, as i didn't have time to do it myself. VW don't care how long the engine lasts, as long as it doesn't stuff up under the 3 year warranty, they are happy.

I did check to make sure they changed the oil, i also took a sample of the oil before changing it for my engine history.

oil is cheap, 13-15K on a new engine in 5-8 years time isn't as i plan on keeping this for a while as it will be a campervan.

Do what you feel is right for you.