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  • #31
    Timber floor cut and fitted. $49.50 for two sheets of 2400x1200x9 MDF from the big green shed!

    Then threw my rubber mat back over the top (pic was taken before floor was done but you get the drift) as on it's own the ribbing on the metal chassis floor was horrible to move around on, on your knees.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Markee View Post
      the light bar would blind them where just the high beams would not.
      When I'm cruising up the highway, I tend to find that anybody behind me with any high beams at all is too much... But maybe I'm just one of those sensitive country folk...

      Originally posted by Markee View Post
      Here are some photos of the different beams. Using upgraded H4 headlight globes 100/90W 6000k
      Please be careful; as the standard wiring is only rated for 55/60W H4 globes. There is a possibility you'll damage the BCM by trying to draw too much current through it. (Go on, ask me how I know )
      2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
      1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
      1985 Mazda T3500 adventuremobile. 1973 Superbug. 1972 Volvo 144 in poo-brown.
      Not including hers...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
        Please be careful; as the standard wiring is only rated for 55/60W H4 globes. There is a possibility you'll damage the BCM by trying to draw too much current through it. (Go on, ask me how I know )
        Cheers for the heads up. But being an electrician I did the maths well before I made the purchase and also bought the ones with the ceramic plug fly lead to avoid any melted wiring like you may have experienced.
        My light bar had it's own separate wiring and supply so no issues there either.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Markee View Post
          Cheers for the heads up. But being an electrician I did the maths well before I made the purchase and also bought the ones with the ceramic plug fly lead to avoid any melted wiring like you may have experienced.
          My light bar had it's own separate wiring and supply so no issues there either.
          Melted wiring is one issue; but being that every globe is computer controlled the other issue is drawing too much current through the power circuits built into the body control module.
          I'm not 100% sure on the T5 Transporter, but in the Octavia the globe doesn't have a relay to power it; just a line straight from the computer to the light - the $800 computer is what I'm worried about.
          2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
          1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
          1985 Mazda T3500 adventuremobile. 1973 Superbug. 1972 Volvo 144 in poo-brown.
          Not including hers...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Markee View Post
            Fitted the springs up. Happy with the result so far although I killed a ball joint in the process so need to replace that asap.
            Will wait for it to settle and take some measurements before fitting the new wheels and tyres. But so far looking good for the overall height I wanted.
            Before

            After
            Hi, I have also fitted the raised King Springs but don't think the front raised the 30mm as stated by them. It was around 15mm difference if I can recall. Do you reckon yours changed much?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
              Melted wiring is one issue; but being that every globe is computer controlled the other issue is drawing too much current through the power circuits built into the body control module.
              I'm not 100% sure on the T5 Transporter, but in the Octavia the globe doesn't have a relay to power it; just a line straight from the computer to the light - the $800 computer is what I'm worried about.
              I am with you on that one , I learnt many long years ago from a Toyota Landcruiser experience where I fitted an extra interior light to a customers car after we fitted a sunroof for him . The next day he was back as several circuits had gone dead overnight , we disconnected the new light and he went to the dealers where they reset the Can Bus system for him . We then rewired the light via a relay and all was well . Apparently Toyota did not give much information on the subject as many owners also found after they had a towbar fitted they lost lights as well . When I fitted a towbar to our new T5.1 2012 model and found VW wanted $650 plus for a compliant wiring harness plus recoding as well , I figured out that all that was needed was a relay to fool each circuit . Chance stopping at a local towbar shop was good as they actually had a specific little box with multiple relays inside all labelled for each wire , $120 and no coding either . Same thing applies to aftermarket head units I get from China , they come with their own Can Bus decoder standard , so again no coding for any of the features that you have to activate with the VW units .

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Toa84 View Post
                Hi, I have also fitted the raised King Springs but don't think the front raised the 30mm as stated by them. It was around 15mm difference if I can recall. Do you reckon yours changed much?
                I got 25mm on the front and 60mm on the rear, that's with the standard wheels you see in the photos.

                Sunny can you confirm or deny that all 2012 models have CANbus wiring and therefore my lights would be controlled direct from the BCM? Or is there any way that you have found to determine if they are not switched through a relay? Or has anyone found an actual wiring diagram online? I ask as I really like my new globes and don't want to ruin the BCM.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
                  Melted wiring is one issue; but being that every globe is computer controlled the other issue is drawing too much current through the power circuits built into the body control module.
                  I'm not 100% sure on the T5 Transporter, but in the Octavia the globe doesn't have a relay to power it; just a line straight from the computer to the light - the $800 computer is what I'm worried about.
                  If every globe is computer controlled how come I've not had any codes or dash lights from replacing the interior and number plate globes with LED's and also with the headlight globes using more power and drawing more current? Seems odd to me.
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                  • #39
                    Canbus seems to be different with different manufacturers , I am not a sparky so I cannot give a definitive answer . All I can say is that car electronics can be either strong in response to changes or just plain weak and will shut down via the BCM if there is a small hiccup . Some cars for instance you can short out a circuit and you go looking for a blown fuse only to discover no blown fuses but the lights are still out . I did this accidently to Holden Astra , it happened late in the day so I went back early next morning thinking of a major problem to fix . So I decided to disconnect the battery and voila it all worked again , I found out that some systems will see a problem and lock out that circuit so each time that is turned on the BCM checks the cars systems and keeps locking out that one until its either fixed or as in my case disconnect the battery to reset . Just found this have a read it may help https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAN_bus
                    Last edited by Sunny43.5; 01-11-2016, 06:50 PM.

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                    • #40
                      So I got some more LED side/DRL for the T6 Multivan. They're Chinese jobs that claim to be 50w each.

                      However after reading the above I'm questioning whether I put them in or not.

                      Thoughts?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Markee View Post
                        If every globe is computer controlled how come I've not had any codes or dash lights from replacing the interior and number plate globes with LED's and also with the headlight globes using more power and drawing more current? Seems odd to me.
                        Sorry, should have been clearer:
                        Low beam
                        High beam
                        Indicator (front/rear)
                        Parking light (front/rear)
                        Numberplate light

                        are all computer controlled.

                        Perhaps your current numberplate lights are CANBUS compatible (resisted) or maybe the T5 doesn't scan numberplate lights?
                        2012 Octavia vRS TDI. Darkside big turbo, 3bar tune, other stuff. 200kW/650Nm.
                        1990 Mk1 Cabrio. 1.9 IDI w/ 18PSI.
                        1985 Mazda T3500 adventuremobile. 1973 Superbug. 1972 Volvo 144 in poo-brown.
                        Not including hers...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TheKiwi View Post
                          So I got some more LED side/DRL for the T6 Multivan. They're Chinese jobs that claim to be 50w each.

                          However after reading the above I'm questioning whether I put them in or not.

                          Thoughts?
                          I've had mine in for well over a week with no issues yet but mine is a T5 not a T6. See below.

                          Originally posted by Mysticality View Post
                          Sorry, should have been clearer:
                          Low beam
                          High beam
                          Indicator (front/rear)
                          Parking light (front/rear)
                          Numberplate light

                          are all computer controlled.

                          Perhaps your current numberplate lights are CANBUS compatible (resisted) or maybe the T5 doesn't scan numberplate lights?
                          They may be computer controlled but each is protected by a fuse. In my experience a fuse is there to protect the cable so if the cable draws to much current the fuse will blow protecting the cable and anything upstream of it i.e. the BCM. Also the headlights, high and low beam, are switched through a relay, this tells me they are controlled by something else, most likely the BCM.
                          This is all speculation though and is why I would really like to get my hands on a wiring diagram to see for myself.

                          My number plate lights are definitely not CANBUS compatible, they are just LED replacement festoon bulbs.
                          My DRL LED's are CANBUS compatible, they have the resistor necessary on the PCB, although I doubt I actually need them. They were just available with the bayonet fitting so that's why I bought them, oh and they were about $3 each!
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                          • #43
                            New wheels fitted yesterday along with the King Springs last week and we're up high and moving! Ride is incredibly good, it has probably even gotten better than the original ride to be honest.

                            Tyres: 245/65 17 Toyo Open Country A/T II Light Truck version with a 117 load rating
                            Rims: Dynamic Wheel Company Sunraysia 17x7.5in ET30 5x120 in black, load rated to 1200kgs so perfect for me, centre bore mounted for the perfect fit.
                            Total lift is 50mm front and 80mm rear averaged out over both ends from stock.



                            Last edited by Markee; 03-01-2017, 11:21 AM. Reason: Fixed load ratings for wheels and tyres
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                            • #44
                              Mark, where will you get insulation from? Will you do it yourself?
                              regards
                              Matt

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by matt335 View Post
                                Mark, where will you get insulation from? Will you do it yourself?
                                regards
                                Matt
                                Hi Matt, I haven't decided if I'm going to use something like Dynamat yet or just put some insulation in the cavities.
                                For insulation I'll probably buy a bag or two of some roofing insulation at a local hardware store. It's a pretty simple task so I will do it myself like I did in my Hiace. The stuff I got for the Hiace was for free from a job site I worked on a few year ago.
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