T5 Auto Transmission

[IN2VWS]

ETKA shows that there is a filter on the DSG.

[IN2VWS]

......and here is the tiptronic transmission.

[IN2VWS]

Just booked in for my service.....Was told it includes the filter change.

I thought I would trot out to the van to see where this filter is located. Wasn't happy with what I saw. There is oil sitting around the filter.

[Sunny43.5]

Oh joy of joys that's not a good omen , but it looks like it is accessible so changing the filter is possible unlike the Tiptronic which I noted is called a strainer funny that one , ours was completely blocked .If what I see is correct the filter cartridge is like the early T5 engine filter . It seems that VW knew enough to make the DSG more user friendly from a service point of view and that they know that the filter will need to be replaced . Pity the mongrels wont admit it was a mistake to leave the filter on the Tiptronic inside out of sight and not obviously able to be changed inside a servicee regime .

PS good post IN2VWS very informative research you have done .

[Umai Naa!!]

There's no service interval for the filter, as it is difficult (but not impossible) to replace. However, I'd recommend doing it anyway.

In theory, it shouldn't cost more than $500 to do an an and filter service on it in dealership land. Auto (Tiptronic) in theory, shouldn't be much more. I've done them before. No harder than any other automatic transmission.

As for the oil leak in the image above, I really hope it's a simple O-ring on the filter housing that's causing it (which gets replaced with the filter anyway).

[Sunny43.5]

Okay Umai Naa if what you say is correct about the Tiptronic and the DSG why are VW refusing to do a Oil Strainer replacement in the Tiptronics . They happily change the fluid and just leave all the filthy sludge and debris inside to then mix with the nice clean oil and voila instant recontaminated fluid .

[IN2VWS]

As for the oil leak in the image above, I really hope it's a simple O-ring on the filter housing that's causing it (which gets replaced with the filter anyway).

Thanks.
I don't think the leak is a major leak. There is no signs of an oil leak under the van, and there is no usual signs of oil spay on the rear doors etc of the van. No spots of oil in the driveway either.

So, are you saying that the oil filter on the DSG is not in the service schedule to be replaced?

[R36vagen]

Hi . I need a dsg service on my r36 sydney have a genuine filter + seal 0401311323

Okay Umai Naa if what you say is correct about the Tiptronic and the DSG why are VW refusing to do a Oil Strainer replacement in the Tiptronics . They happily change the fluid and just leave all the filthy sludge and debris inside to then mix with the nice clean oil and voila instant recontaminated fluid .

Hi I need a dsg service on my r36 and have a genuine filter and seal. It is hesitating on take off.
Have been told may be low on oil. Has 55000km.
Can some one do a mobile service in Sydney east suburbs?
Please phone 0401311323 . I will bring this fwd and do the rest at 60k
Cheers

[Umai Naa!!]

Okay Umai Naa if what you say is correct about the Tiptronic and the DSG why are VW refusing to do a Oil Strainer replacement in the Tiptronics . They happily change the fluid and just leave all the filthy sludge and debris inside to then mix with the nice clean oil and voila instant recontaminated fluid .

Not sure why. I don't have anything to do with that. I just work on them. You're right. It should be part of the schedule, but for some reason, it's not.

Thanks.
I don't think the leak is a major leak. There is no signs of an oil leak under the van, and there is no usual signs of oil spay on the rear doors etc of the van. No spots of oil in the driveway either.

So, are you saying that the oil filter on the DSG is not in the service schedule to be replaced?

Yeah, last I checked, it wasn't. Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if dealers are actually replacing it. Seems crazy to knock back the work, and subsequent profit. Same goes for the Tiptronic.

Hi I need a dsg service on my r36 and have a genuine filter and seal. It is hesitating on take off.
Have been told may be low on oil. Has 55000km.
Can some one do a mobile service in Sydney east suburbs?
Please phone 0401311323 . I will bring this fwd and do the rest at 60k
Cheers

Unless the oil is leaking substantially, I doubt the oil quantity would cause a hesitation even if it is slightly low. I'd say you'd need to book it in with a dealer, and have it assessed, and the data from the DSG sent to Volkswagen for their input.

However, if you still wish to have the DSG serviced, feel free to send me a private message on here, and we can work something out.

[IN2VWS]

OK, just went to the dealer to show them the oil leak and to discuss the 60k service.
The 60k DSG service does NOT include the filter change. The filter change at 60k is only done on the Caddy not the Transporter.
You have to ask for the filter to be changed, otherwise they will not do it.
My theory is (as a maintenance guy), if the oil is dirty enough to be changed, then the filter should be changed also. Why put in new oil just to swim around with the contaminants already in the old filter????

My 2c.

[Silver Caravelle]

Bizarre that the Caddy gets the 'special treatment'; (i.e. what should occur in all these vehicles) and not the T5.

Regarding the the photo, is that a split in the filter cover on the edge to the right?

Cheers,

Scott

[IN2VWS]

Bizarre that the Caddy gets the 'special treatment'; (i.e. what should occur in all these vehicles) and not the T5.

Regarding the the photo, is that a split in the filter cover on the edge to the right?

Cheers,

Scott

Nah, no split, just a bit of crap on the housing. Here is a pic with it wiped clean.

[Sunny43.5]

OK, just went to the dealer to show them the oil leak and to discuss the 60k service.
The 60k DSG service does NOT include the filter change. The filter change at 60k is only done on the Caddy not the Transporter.
You have to ask for the filter to be changed, otherwise they will not do it.
My theory is (as a maintenance guy), if the oil is dirty enough to be changed, then the filter should be changed also. Why put in new oil just to swim around with the contaminants already in the old filter????

My 2c.[/QUOTE]

I can agree many hundreds of percent IN2VWS this was my main point of complaint to VW Germany and Australia , if the filter is not changed then whats the point ? as I said instant recontamination of $50 a litre fluid . And yes I also read here on the forum and my owners handbook that the filter is not changed "Except" for Caddy at 60.000 . But I can say with all past experience under my belt there is NO WAY VW will get away with doing a service and not do the filter when its time in our DSG .This was the internal Strainer in our auto you can see the light grey colour is the filter material which is over a metal membrane no oil passes through this part , the black coarse shapes are the area the oil was supposed to pass through but as you can see its blocked , This phot slightly blurry shows the sludge left in the bottom after they changed the fluid pointless exercise IMO .

[Umai Naa!!]

Different plumbing and ancillaries around the filter on the Caddy, which provide easier access to the filter itself.

Besides this, there's no reason why it can't be replaced.

[pjondeck]

Hi all, Thank you for the feedback. Yes, my vehicle is an MY11 132Kw 7sp DSG. It is coming up 45Kkms. I haven't had any big issue yet with the transmission. I did notice and report though that if I took off from stop on an uphill with any weight on the getaway was rather sluggish. The second one was when I arrived home from a long trip, parked the vehicle overnight and in the morning reversed from my driveway, went near to full steering lock to head off. I experienced a bit of a shudder or perhaps graunchiness about the transmission as I accelerated in the turn. I immediately reported it and VW customer service had an NRMA mechanic have a look. He said that it was quite common and that for instance the Honda CRV AWD did the same thing. He said that when the oil is cold that something about something not being completely released in the 4motion?? Upshot was I took it to the dealer for the mechanic to have a drive but by the time I had gone a few hundred metres it had disappeared, presumably with the oil starting to warm up. This sort of hypersensitised me to the reports of problems with DSG from my sometimes over dramatic mechanic relative. Added to this that at 65 years this is my first new vehicle and the fact that I had spent K$64 buying the thing I was groomed to feel a bit of anxiety. I have 18 months of warranty up my sleeve but if there is something that I should be doing or asking of my dealer to be proactive then I would want to do it.
Grateful for your input.
Peter