T5 with DSG and multi function steering wheel question

[Sharkie]

Picked up my own VCDS cable from Guy today, so will be playing with this quite a bit over the next few days. Be coding a number of the additional features found on othe VWs and post the results somwhere here .....

[Sharkie]

Played a bit with some other settings (like auto window closing when it rains) and did some research ....

Turns out the T5.2's Actual Steering wheel controller 5K0 959 542 sits in 09: Cent. Elect. and not in Address 16: Steering wheel which is different than any other VW to date ..... which means coding will not be straightforward. I'll engage Ross-Tech to help a bit as well.


IN2VWS
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 087 D HW: 7H0 937 087
Component: BCM T5GP H+4 H47 0221
Revision: BO047001 Serial number: 0347 279100767
Coding: B8A0303A0E33203300280010342B8CD50080430F6004400030 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 02734 790 00000
VCID: 356A902925D1

Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B HW: 7E0 959 801 B
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3311
Coding: 010000

Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B HW: 7E0 959 802 B
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3311
Coding: 000000

Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 HW: 5K0 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H06 0010
Coding: 830000

And mine

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 7H0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 7H0 937 089 B HW: 7H0 937 089
Component: BCM T5GP Li4 H47 0221
Revision: BS047001 Serial number: 0349 254100020
Coding: B8A0393A0E6124039328467076EB8FD58280600F6084284130 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 02754 790 00000
VCID: 356B3C1125D1

Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 230910 05 54 0403
Coding: 03302E

Part No SW: 7E0 959 801 B HW: 7E0 959 801 B
Component: J386__TSG_FT 002 3311
Coding: 010000

Part No SW: 7E0 959 802 B HW: 7E0 959 802 B
Component: J387__TSG_BT 002 3311
Coding: 000000

Part No: 7E1 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Coding: 000000

Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501
Coding: 000000

Part No: 7E1 951 171
Component: DWA-Sensor 00 001 0104
Coding: 000000

Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 HW: 5K0 959 542
Component: E221__MFL-TAS H06 0010
Coding: 830000

[SnowMotion]

Having taken delivery of 2 x Transporter Crew Van 132kw 4Motion DSG at work (one optioned with MF display) I realized I made a mistake not ordering this option on my van.
So with this in mind I decided to find a way to get at a minimum the MF steering wheel to control the stereo.

Found a steering wheel with MF and paddle shifts. Removed the stock wheel and fitted the new leather and MF wheel. Feels much nicer than the stock plastic one. Airbag is a perfect fit but the stock harness does not connect to the MF wheel. Time to source a new Airbag harness with MF interface. Found the right harness and fitted. At the moment I have taken one step backwards with no MF functionality and no horn. Airbag is all working but need to get the car hooked up to computer to see what can be activated.

[Tornado T5]

Having taken delivery of 2 x Transporter Crew Van 132kw 4Motion DSG at work (one optioned with MF display) I realized I made a mistake not ordering this option on my van.
So with this in mind I decided to find a way to get at a minimum the MF steering wheel to control the stereo.

Found a steering wheel with MF and paddle shifts. Removed the stock wheel and fitted the new leather and MF wheel. Feels much nicer than the stock plastic one. Airbag is a perfect fit but the stock harness does not connect to the MF wheel. Time to source a new Airbag harness with MF interface. Found the right harness and fitted. At the moment I have taken one step backwards with no MF functionality and no horn. Airbag is all working but need to get the car hooked up to computer to see what can be activated.

Are they short wheel base models?

[SnowMotion]

Yes, SWB.

Some good news today. Verified that the MF module for the Cruise control etc is the same part number as my non MF displayed van.
6Q0 953 503 FE

[SnowMotion]

tried fitting the new steering wheel to the van that already has the MF display. And success, the paddles worked with no programming.
So had a look under the steering column cover and spotted one small difference. The module (round) that sits right behind the steering wheel is the same part number but for the last didgit, in this case my non MF display unit ends in F and the MF display unit ends in G.
Now to see if I can buy this part for a reasonable cost.

[SnowMotion]

Today i am very happy
After many months working on this project and with some very good help I have now successfully installed my MF steering wheel on my non MF display Transporter.
Only the left steering wheel control is working which controls the stereo and the gear shift paddles as I do not have a MF instrument cluster. But this gives me control of the station selection, volue and mute. With the paddles I can shift gear at any time in any gear mode, D, S or manual.
A bit of reprogramming is necessary but very simple via Ross Tech.
Very happy with this result.

[Sunny43.5]

Sounds like you were very determined to get this sucker working , very good outcome over a long time span . I suppose the features would be handy but for me changing gears in an auto is not a priority . I would agree that the holding of gears downhill in the DSG is a pain , I just wish that VW would stick a "normal "auto in their models and leave the DSG style auto as an option rather than standard . I just keep getting this uneasy feeling that the DSG is going to be a problem later , ours has only done 800 kms and Friday it did something weird I reversed out stopped with foot on brake and put it into drive and there was no drive ?? it just rolled backwards downhill I stopped again had waited several seconds after selecting D before trying to drive forward it took two re shifts to get it to actually move .

[t5dude]

I ordered my MY13 with the MFD2 and leather MFSW. When it arrived it was missing the MFSW They tried fitting one at the dealer but couldn't get it working. They agreed to give me the wheel so that I could get it working.

Small issues:
- Require VAGCOM for coding - Done
- Different wheel harness - Done

Big issues:
- No power wiring is running to the wheel (slip ring/clock spring)
- No LIN data cable running to the wheel
- No fuse or fuse terminals are fitted to the vehicle

The wheel is fitted but controls aren't working.
Next step is try and find part numbers for the fuse box terminals and the terminals for the power and LIN cables at the back of the slip ring.

Trying to use the MFD with only the up/down and OK buttons on the wiper stalk is a PITA! Whoever decided to put the OK button at the bottom of the stalk should have their arse kicked!!

[IN2VWS]

I ordered my MY13 with the MFD2 and leather MFSW. When it arrived it was missing the MFSW They tried fitting one at the dealer but couldn't get it working. They agreed to give me the wheel so that I could get it working.

That was nice of them to give it to you.........considering you paid for it.
SO it came with the MFD still.....but no wheel?

[t5dude]

That was nice of them to give it to you.........considering you paid for it.
SO it came with the MFD still.....but no wheel?

Yep MFD but no MFSW. I told them the options I wanted which included the MFD2 (wanted the temp and fuel gauges) and MFSW. The paperwork had "Multi Function TC" which I assumed was the Multi Function package (didn't know what TC was). When the vehicle arrived without the MFSW I said WTF? no wheel? They said it wasn't ordered, it's not on the paperwork. I said BS it wasn't ordered! It's on the original quote.

Basically they weren't going to supply the MFSW because it wasn't on the official order so I said you can either order another van WITH a MFSW or give me my deposit back. After a couple weeks of negotiation they offered to supply a MFSW FOC as long as they didn't have to get it working.

The sales manager is a top bloke so the negotiations were civil with no agro. Although I really wanted to drive away with a working MFSW I was satisfied with the outcome.

[SnowMotion]

Yes, it can be made to work and coded (will need Ross tech for this). It is just a question of adding the wiring for the MFSW.
I can put you in touch with the guy that did my install on the weekend. He knows how to get it all wired up and coded.

Not surprised about the failure to deliver what was ordered. Had the same experience with my 2 work vans. It took just short of 12 months and a little visit to the courts to the dealer to correct my shortage. I feel for you.

[Lams]

hi all, just picked up a 2010 Caravelle with no MFD and no MFSW and I attempted to fit the GTI wheel. I couldn't get the coding working. Now it appears I'm missing some wires for the LIN control, I have VCDS and a 087 BCM, what other parts would I need?

The GTI wheel was working great in my Caddy before !

[ricco]

Replace Airbag wiring loom with 3C8 971 584F, if not supplied with the MFSW

Buy 1 x VW 000 979 135 E wire, cut I half and extend wire
The wires from the stalk are;
pin 9 to fuse 34 in central fuse box (or an ignition live) I joined to a wire under dash, don't remember which one though
pin 10 to pin 17 of the white 73pin plug on the body control module, this already has a wire in that position as its the Lin bus, solder onto this wire.
Code the BCM with VCDS & tell it you have a MFSW

If you want trip computer then recode the instruments, really easy to do

[beluga]

Hi guys,

Awesome thread.

I have MY2012 T5 Caravelle 7E, and have successfully retrofitted a rcd510 and 9w7 kit. It has a black and white MFD and non MFSW. If I bought a golf mk6 MFSW, would the controls work or do I need to also get other bits like a Steering wheel module etc. your help is appreciated. Mark


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