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For those with an eye to the future .New 2021 Volkswagen Transporter T7 spied at the Nurburgring | Auto Express

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2022 Volkswagen Multivan T7 Debuts Today: See The Livestream

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Watch "all-new 2022 VW Multivan T7 Premiere REVIEW - the king of MPVs?" on YouTube
all-new 2022 VW Multivan T7 Premiere REVIEW - the king of MPVs? - YouTube

See attached link for review.

Scott

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Deathly silence. Not loving the new T7?
Scott

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Ve have vays of making you bored.

Nice enough vehicle with interesting dimension variations available when the Transporter nexus is broken; tedious presentation.

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Haha!

I think I will need to see it in the flesh. The interior updates and seat functionality seem a forward step but not the dimensions of the shorter version with less boot space. Not sure about the front appearance or the appearance of the longer version.

Engine torque is down with nothing with 450nm or higher or 4 motion. I have read that the 4 motion 6.1 Multivan will continue along side the T7 Multivan. I wonder then if the 6.1 version will get a further update of the dash and interior ( per that of the T7) which would provide the best of both worlds or my tastes and requirements.

[Sharkie]

More info out today.

VW unveils seven-seat T7 Multivan to tempt families out of big SUVs

I've been told that we must get 1. So if the 2.0 petrol turbo does come to Australia (with the 8spd proper auto), we will buy 1. My wife still misses the T5.1 we had

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More info out today.

VW unveils seven-seat T7 Multivan to tempt families out of big SUVs

I've been told that we must get 1. So if the 2.0 petrol turbo does come to Australia (with the 8spd proper auto), we will buy 1. My wife still misses the T5.1 we had

I,m with you on the Petrol Turbo , probably not have to put up with all VW,s 3 letter swear words DPF EGR DSG DMF .

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A number of the online articles point to 7 speed DSG for all versions except the hybrid which will come with a 6 speed DSG. I can only hope it is a normal 8 speed auto. I am also interested in what the internal floor to roof dimensions will be for a wheelchair hoist for my disabled adult son. The short wheelbase version also looks to have less internal cargo capacity than the T5 or T6.

Re two litre petrol turbo, I hope it has plenty of torque, but could still be a thirsty beast. Clearly they are not keen to offer a high powered diesel or 4motion.

Scott

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A number of the online articles point to 7 speed DSG for all versions except the hybrid which will come with a 6 speed DSG. I can only hope it is a normal 8 speed auto. I am also interested in what the internal floor to roof dimensions will be for a wheelchair hoist for my disabled adult son. The short wheelbase version also looks to have less internal cargo capacity than the T5 or T6.

Re two litre petrol turbo, I hope it has plenty of torque, but could still be a thirsty beast. Clearly they are not keen to offer a high powered diesel or 4motion.

Scott

Hoping on the 8spd auto ... and btw the petrol turbos certainly have similar torque to the TDI's but also have a much better spread of torque than any TDI. Typically the VW TDI's make max torque over a very short peak ~750rmin whereas the VW TSI's make similar torque but for over ~2500 peak which makes them a whole lot more drivable.

On the Amarok's (similar engines in the 2.0 range) the TDI's make max torque from 1750 to 2500rmin, whereas the TSI make max torque from 1800 to 4500 rmin .... this result in much different driving characteristics without massively impacting fuel economy. As a bonus you can rev the TSIs out to almost 7000rmin (and much higher kw) which makes overtaking a breeze.

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I would think though a two litre Tsi is going to be one thirsty beast to get the best out of it, lugging a heavy vehicle compared the same engine in a lighter Golf, particularly as more revs to obtain that torque advantage is going to suck much more fuel. All previous petrol engines TSi, V6 for the T5 were very thirsty ( heavy vehicle) but no doubt smooth to drive when revved. My old 2.5 petrol T4 auto Caravelle was a total juice pig and was not remotely a performance engine and it had to be revved. There is no free lunch in the heavy vehicle department with a high revving petrol engine in fuel consumption no matter how many turbos might be hanging off the engine.

This is why large heavy vehicles of a many brands ( Merc, Audi, VW, KIA, Hyundai, you name it) still tend to go the diesel path, except for where countries are legislating against them. Max torque at 1900 rpm or so 'riding the cam' with say an eight speed auto makes for a relaxed drive in my view!

Would you have V6 Tdi Amarock with 580nm ( noting probably a narrower torque band) or a TSI? I would have the V6 Tdi any day of the week.

Petrol engines for smaller cars and diesel engines for larger vehicles makes sense to me.

Finally my T5 at 128kw and 400nm is no slouch loaded up, powering up a hill or overtaking as it is mostly in the maximum torque band where is needed for each particular gear without having to rev the crap out of it. Even sinking the revs into it does not indicate a noticeable drop off in grunt.

Cheers,

Scott

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We have a rare TSI Amarok. In its current state it will go to a 100 in 6.3s which is quicker than the V6s. Yet, at the speed limit, fully loaded for the snow (yearly family trip), it will do the 3500km round trip (BNE to Thredbo and back) averaging 8.9l/100km. In convoy (we normally have 3 dual cabs going) the TDI400 Amarok (daughter 2's partner) struggles to keep up and uses over 10l/100km, whilst the Triton (tuned 2.4TD of daughter 1's partner) uses 11l/100km .... this is on the same trip with similar loads!

So not only is the petrol Amarok lighter on fuel than any of those diesels, it is also significant faster and will go 110 - 150 (to quickly and safely overtake) in just over 5s. Based on on what I've seen and experienced personally, nobody is going to convince me a diesel is better for std sized ute or a MPV (like a Multivan). Bring on a petrol 2.0T T7!

Absolutely for large trucks I'd agree with diesel.

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Hi Sharkie,
I got to say that is very impressive. Maybe you have convinced me!
Cheers,
Scott