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  • #46
    Originally posted by Jnr View Post
    test drove the polo gti today, and it was very nice. felt strong and well put together as youd expect from a new car and also has a great standard tone. first gear felt good, could feel a lil boost kicking in but felt that second gear was lacking a little bit.anyone agree and how much difference is there after chipping and will it wheel spin just by puttin the foot flat stick??. anyone know what boost they run standard and what boost they run after chipping them??
    Chipping the Polo GTI doesn't just up the boost like many remaps do. I'm not sure the difference in boost is any more than a couple psi. But... the difference from stock to chipped though, is incredible. I find 2nd gear to be by far the best in mine (it is chipped), 1st will spin the wheels if you don't use it nicely, 2nd gets the power down really well all the way from 40km/h right up to 100.

    It is claimed to make the car 2 seconds quicker from 0-100. I wouldn't disagree with that.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Jnr View Post
      ...how much difference is there after chipping and will it wheel spin just by puttin the foot flat stick??
      Before the MINI I had a chipped Mk4 GTI, which ran a conventional throttle cable 1.8T. The difference after being chipped is definitely noticeable, especially in 1st-3rd gears. With the Polo having the improved drive-by-wire 1.8T, which responds better to chipping, and it's lack of weight compared to the Mk4, I dare say spinning the wheels in 2nd gear will be no problem at all, and over all the enjoyment factory of driving the car will improve greatly.


      Originally posted by GT3 View Post
      12 kw from the intake alone, amasing isn't?
      Yeah, most people don't believe it, and to be honest I don't blame them as I probably wouldn't either. Regardless of the accuracy or otherwise of the figure, the CAI has made the car breathe much, much better past about 4000rpm and increased throttle response markedly. As far as butt dyno goes, it felt like a 12kW improvement, haha.


      Originally posted by GT3 View Post
      Sure, but I was referring to the "GTI" concept - which does have heritage and history too.
      I agree with you, and I've owned two Golf GTIs (Mk4 and Mk5) and dream of owning a mint Mk1 GTI one day ... but, trust me, apart from Volkswagen enthusiasts, they don't compare to the goodwill the MINI has. For example, I've never driven past a bunch of school kids in the Golf and heard them go "wooaaahhh a Golf GTI", but I've lost count of the number of times that has happened with the MINI. This doesn't make the MINI a better car, of course it doesn't, but I'd be lying if I said it doesn't make you feel good and put a smile on your own face as big as theirs.



      MY10 S3 3dr

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      • #48
        Originally posted by tosspot View Post
        I'm not sure the difference in boost is any more than a couple psi.
        It's a fair bit more than that, goes from 6-7 psi well into the mid-teens. Not sure what the exact, precise psi max is, ...but heaven forbid if i'm out by one psi, I'll be technically corrected
        Last edited by GT3; 04-05-2008, 10:12 PM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by GT3 View Post
          It's a fair bit more than that, goes from 6-7 psi well into the mid-teens. Not sure what the exact, precise psi max is, ...but heaven forbid if i'm out by one psi, I'll be technically corrected
          I believe it goes from 8.7psi to 14.5psi.

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          • #50
            Tell you what,

            If you get a nice cooper S with low k's for mid 20's, I'll swap you my 07 GTI Polo with 14,000km.

            **My Opinion**

            As someone who has owned both and done well over 100,000km in a Mini I could never recommend one over a Polo. Twice the car. At the end of the day they both suck at performance, so that should not be the deciding factor.

            A mini with exhaust and some nicely offset wheels looks around 11tybillion times more credible than a Polo.

            IMO, I honestly believe my wife made a mistake when choosing a new Polo over a Mini, so that's my experience.

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            • #51
              Arnt you a sour little grape Lori.


              GTI. Leather.
              tint,Eibach pro-kit,Whiteline adjustable swaybars,Forge s/brace,BMC,Forge T.I.P & D.V, Cupra R, APR. EBC & 3''dump pipe

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              • #52
                Originally posted by minigolf View Post
                I've never driven past a bunch of school kids in the Golf and heard them go "wooaaahhh a Golf GTI", but I've lost count of the number of times that has happened with the MINI.
                If getting attention is important to you, then the Mini will deliver more in that respect. However, some of us Polo GTI owners, like me, couldn't justify the extra cost (it's significant) for similar performance with less (or no) room inside. Unless you get a much older MCS with high klms, you're essentially paying an extra 10+k for the 'cool' factor IMO.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by mitch_gti View Post
                  Arnt you a sour little grape Lori.


                  That's an understatement.


                  It's Volkswagen(Aus) as a company that has tipped me over the edge. Completely pathetic in comparison to BMW-Mini.

                  The worst part is, I have an ethical problem in on-selling this poor little lemon to either another dealership(trade-in) or a private buyer. So I guess we're stuck with it for the foreseeable future.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by LoriJarrod View Post
                    That's an understatement.


                    It's Volkswagen(Aus) as a company that has tipped me over the edge. Completely pathetic in comparison to BMW-Mini.

                    The worst part is, I have an ethical problem in on-selling this poor little lemon to either another dealership(trade-in) or a private buyer. So I guess we're stuck with it for the foreseeable future.
                    That sounds more like a dealer issue. I've not had a problem with mine at all. We have had 3 BMWs (all 318i) in our family and 2 VAG (Audi A4, VW Polo GTI) cars. All from brand new. Mum couldn't have been happier with 1 or the 3 BMWs (the other 2 were poor in comparison).

                    Neither the Audi or VW have failed to impress every time we hop in them.

                    At least when you make a recommendation, say from the start that you had a poor experience and that's fueling the fire. Rather than just putting it down.

                    The Polo is a much better car when you think of the extra 15k you would have in your pocket. Compare the Mini to the Golf.

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                    • #55
                      [QUOTE=Jnr;156822]
                      anyone know what boost they run standard and what boost they run after chipping them??

                      [QUOTE=minigolf;156746]

                      I "think" standard boost on the Polo is around 7 psi but I "know" with a remap the boost spikes at 21-22psi.



                      Colin
                      Current - MY12 MK6 GTI, CW, Detriots, dark tint, APR Stage 1, blacked out grille, LED tails, Euro plates, suspension "tweaked", VCDS tweaks
                      "The Ex" Black MY08 POLO GTI - APR,Coilovers,5% tint,stubby antenna, rear sway bar

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                      • #56
                        Yes, my REVO boosts at around 22psi at peak.
                        06 Polo GTI - REVO Stage 2 = 140kw @ wheels.
                        06 Golf GTI - Bluefin Stage 1 blacked out with ED30 theme, leather, xenon, etc.

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                        • #57
                          Hoyhoy.
                          I think you will find standard boost is around 14.5 to 15psi. or one bar which is 14.7psi.
                          Hooroo.

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                          • #58
                            [QUOTE=Koz;157145][QUOTE=Jnr;156822]
                            anyone know what boost they run standard and what boost they run after chipping them??

                            Originally posted by minigolf View Post

                            I "think" standard boost on the Polo is around 7 psi but I "know" with a remap the boost spikes at 21-22psi.



                            Colin
                            Depends what remap.21-22psi is a bit on the high side though.Mine is an Oettinger peaking at 16psi,Timbo's Revo remap peaks at 19.5psi on a 98ron map.
                            Standard boost was around 9psi from memory.

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                            • #59
                              Really!! "22psi" !!

                              Thanks for telling me I was gonna get a boost gauge that only went to 20psi.

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                              • #60
                                hey found it guys.....
                                the polo runs a standard of 10Psi but can handle a max of 24Psi...whooo thats gotta be fun.. just dont know how much the motor can handle and how much they boost them to with a chip to be safe and reliable...

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