POLO GTi OR COOPER S??

[Flaps]

Hang on it has 128kw stock so I guess it is running the JCW software + exhaust? That's about 165-170kw at the fly.

What boost does it run?

[Guy_H]

Hang on it has 128kw stock so I guess it is running the JCW software + exhaust? That's about 165-170kw at the fly.

What boost does it run?

Nope - no extra's - not even software - that was with An air intake though. We hope to do one shortly with intake / exhaust & software.

You are correct - the gains are huge, we couldn't believe it when we drove it & saw the dyno numbers. We dynoed it at Sherrin motorsport (who run the Mini Challenge) and they were also mega impressed with it.

and correct - about 170kw flywheel

[GT3]

and correct - about 170kw flywheel

MCS is a hairdresser's car, too gimmicky..

My Pog's got 174 at flywheel and is way cheaper than an MCS. This dude should drive mine, chances are he'd buy it, ..unless he's a hairdresser

[FL00DY]

MCS is a hairdresser's car, too gimmicky..

My Pog's got 174 at flywheel and is way cheaper than an MCS. This dude should drive mine, chances are he'd buy it, ..unless he's a hairdresser

You ever been around a race track in one? Writing off the MCS as a hairdressers car is so wrong you have no idea. Out of the 20 or so people I know driving them, half of who track their cars 2-4 times a year (one of them a woman or does BDD's every month), one of them is gay and he's got a purple MCS Cabrio. Hairdressers car is just such a BS statement.

[Guy_H]

MCS is a hairdresser's car, too gimmicky..

My Pog's got 174 at flywheel and is way cheaper than an MCS. This dude should drive mine, chances are he'd buy it, ..unless he's a hairdresser

Actually in this case they were biased It was the local Mini dealer - they took our polo for a drive & came back very white. Apparently the blood didn't make it back to their knuckles for 2 days!

[GT3]

Hairdressers car is just such a BS statement.

Take a chill-pill Floody, I know the MCS are good cars.

Even if you overlooked the fact that most of the MCS design, eg interior, is aimed at appealing to a fashion-conscious market, performance wise, there's better cars for the money. ..and it's trendy design makes it an unworkable long-term proposition, eg zero rear space for passengers or anything!

[FL00DY]

Take a chill-pill Floody, I know the MCS are good cars.

Even if you overlooked the fact that most of the MCS design, eg interior, is aimed at appealing to a fashion-conscious market, performance wise, there's better cars for the money. ..and it's trendy design makes it an unworkable long-term proposition, eg zero rear space for passengers or anything!

I do agree there are better performance cars for the money, the same as our cars. However if you look at the segments of the market, our Polo GTI's are top of the list, unless you prefer to go fast in a straight line and don't mind spending more then $30K-$35K. The MINI and Golf GTI can be specced for bout the same money but do two very different jobs, MINI is still one of the best handlers in the current hot hatch segment. And yeah I understand what you mean about trend and fashion conscious. When ever I'm Melb around Chapel street I always notice how many MINI's there are around and not one of them is a MCS because half the people buying wouldn't know what a supercharger or turbo was.

[GT3]

around Chapel street I always notice how many MINI's there are around and not one of them is a MCS because half the people buying wouldn't know what a supercharger or turbo was.

Some of the hairdressers around there have turbo and supercharged hair-dryers - so they might

[GT3]

Actually in this case they were biased It was the local Mini dealer - they took our polo for a drive & came back very white. Apparently the blood didn't make it back to their knuckles for 2 days!

ha ha ha ..that's the great thing about highly-modified Polo GTIs, you feel every single damn kilowatt through the chassis, not to mention wheel-spin etc etc, it feels at least 3 times faster than what it really is. Which makes it perfect for scaring ppl sh*tless Perfect APR demo car

[Manaz]

Cooper S will have more status but is also perceived more of a "girls car" than a Polo GTI.

Maybe within the Polo-owning community, but generally the Polo is perceived more of a girls car than a Mini.

[Jnr]

settle guys, any thanks for all your feedback.
just to clarify a few things, i was in the market for a 2nd hand mini also. so i can pick up a 2002/3 mini for 25k and a near new vw go for as low as 20k.... both with similar power.. only thing that is leading me more towards a vw (without test driving it yet) is the fact that the vw is going to have alot less klms and still under waranty and since there are a hell of a lot easier to work on them unlike the cramped mini engine bay..

[GT3]

settle guys, any thanks for all your feedback.

yeah ok been bit silly ..I seriously considered the MCS too. Here's why I went for the Polo GTI - unless you get the newer MCS versions (turbo) you have little choice other than an older supercharged one. There's a reason why BMW moved to turbo - superchargers generally kick-in at the top end, and when you drive the MCS, that's exactly what you notice, it's really lacking up to 5rpm. The Polo GTI has the KO3S turbo, but it's matched to a compression ratio that brings the power on early with virtually no lag, with plenty of torque and a wide, usable spread of power. If you chip and improve flow on a KO3S, you can get massive amounts of power out of them, more than the chassis can deal with.

This is why VW use both a super charger and turbo on the new GT - turbo for low down power, supercharger for up top.

[Timbo]

This is why VW use both a super charger and turbo on the new GT - turbo for low down power, supercharger for up top.

..er...no...exactly the opposite, actually.

[GT3]

..er...no...exactly the opposite, actually.

..I did get it the wrong way around too ..oh well, you get the idea

[Mischa]

yeah ok been bit silly ..I seriously considered the MCS too. Here's why I went for the Polo GTI - unless you get the newer MCS versions (turbo) you have little choice other than an older supercharged one. There's a reason why BMW moved to turbo - superchargers generally kick-in at the top end, and when you drive the MCS, that's exactly what you notice, it's really lacking up to 5rpm. The Polo GTI has the KO3S turbo, but it's matched to a compression ratio that brings the power on early with virtually no lag, with plenty of torque and a wide, usable spread of power. If you chip and improve flow on a KO3S, you can get massive amounts of power out of them, more than the chassis can deal with.

This is why VW use both a super charger and turbo on the new GT - turbo for low down power, supercharger for up top.

that statement makes no sense whatsoever. you're incredibly confused.