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  • #16
    Pretty sure its a GT28 upgrade with new exhaust manifold, injectors etc etc etc. It is a pretty major upgrade ........

    I personally don't believe its worth it on a Polo. (both the cost and the power) Rather buy a Golf and do a S3 upgrade for 230kw. 2nd hand Golfs (05/06 models) are now hitting low $30Ks, even a few with low milage for under $30K. You'll have a much better platform to work with.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
      Pretty sure its a GT28 upgrade with new exhaust manifold, injectors etc etc etc. It is a pretty major upgrade ........

      I personally don't believe its worth it on a Polo. (both the cost and the power) Rather buy a Golf and do a S3 upgrade for 230kw. 2nd hand Golfs (05/06 models) are now hitting low $30Ks, even a few with low milage for under $30K. You'll have a much better platform to work with.
      Dads 12/05 with 22000 on the clock was valued at 25 at the delaer if that weighs into it.

      Does the "narrowness" of the Pogo play into how it gets its power down/stability? Am asking as throwing another 100HP at it would only make it worse..?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
        Pretty sure its a GT28 upgrade with new exhaust manifold, injectors etc etc etc. It is a pretty major upgrade ........

        I personally don't believe its worth it on a Polo. (both the cost and the power) Rather buy a Golf and do a S3 upgrade for 230kw. 2nd hand Golfs (05/06 models) are now hitting low $30Ks, even a few with low milage for under $30K. You'll have a much better platform to work with.
        ah okay though that was a pretty massive jump to get to with just what is listed on their site.... anyone know pricing?

        Why don't they have any of this info on there site?
        Originally posted by Preen59
        It doesn't matter what car you drive.. If you're a complete wanker.. People still won't want to talk to you..

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        • #19
          Originally posted by schoona View Post
          Dads 12/05 with 22000 on the clock was valued at 25 at the delaer if that weighs into it.

          Does the "narrowness" of the Pogo play into how it gets its power down/stability? Am asking as throwing another 100HP at it would only make it worse..?
          Sure would, largest tyre you can get on is 215 and only just.

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          • #20
            The only reason I ask is that I've already got the Polo so I'd like to know what the max cost for massive power would be. If it ends up costing $15k well it's still pretty good considering the base platform was $28k so $43k all up for an absolute monster. I've seen pricing for the stage2 S3 upgrade at $8995 so I'd assume that the stage 2 Polo upgrade would cost about the same, but can't find any pricing for stage 3.

            The traction issues come down to so many variables ie. Suspension, Type and size of tyre (although I agree 215's don't help the issue), Camber the list goes on and on but also the main factor is how heavy your right foot is
            Cheers,

            John

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Flaps View Post
              I'm fairly sure its 320bhp at the fly not at the wheels.

              238kw atw would be getting towards 300kw(400hp) at the motor. Proof - Challenge Stradale - Maximum power: 317 kW (425 bhp) @ 8500 rpm
              233rwkW for a Challenge Stradale is a low reading. It should be more like 260. The normal 294kW 360 Modena should get around 240.

              Does anyone know what sort (read- brand) of dyno the 233rwkW was done on?

              I'd tap a 320hp Polo GTI. Be it at the engine or at the wheels, that'd be some serious go.

              239kW @ 1190kg... 200.84kW/tonne.

              The V8 M3 has only 187kW/tonne. A Ferrari F360 Modena has 211kW/tonne. A 239kW Polo GTI would be a seriously fast car... and nobody would ever guess it.
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              • #22
                Yeah it'd be fast for about 20mins before bits of the drivetrain start give way.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pumpe-Düse View Post
                  The V8 M3 has only 187kW/tonne. A Ferrari F360 Modena has 211kW/tonne. A 239kW Polo GTI would be a seriously fast car... and nobody would ever guess it.
                  It'd be fast just like running on a treadmill fast.

                  You would never get power down.

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                  • #24
                    I'm pretty sure I remember reading on a post somewhere that Guy had a 200kW+ polo for over a year with no issues. Will be interesting to see what he has to say about this.
                    Cheers,

                    John

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                    • #25
                      so... the only real way to get that power down would to take the pogo for a visit to the body shop and get your arches done to accommodate for something much wider?

                      what about that Brit polo I posted in the picture thread thats running 9" wide front and back doesn't look like it's had arch work.
                      Originally posted by Preen59
                      It doesn't matter what car you drive.. If you're a complete wanker.. People still won't want to talk to you..

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                      • #26
                        Does it look like it's driven though?

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                        • #27
                          no idea, if you mean tracked probably not, but I'd say it was a daily his thread said he was thinking of going the K04 route so doubt he just putts around in it.

                          Only real mod I could see that might of made a difference are the coilovers but wouldn't that give you less inner clearance than stock?
                          Originally posted by Preen59
                          It doesn't matter what car you drive.. If you're a complete wanker.. People still won't want to talk to you..

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                          • #28
                            In order to make a 200+kw Polo work you will need to do a lot more than just have the engine make power.

                            Suspension, LSD, stronger gearbox (internals), clutch, driveshafts, engine mounts and not least tyres all need serious (and expensive) attention.

                            To make it at least somewhat driveable you will need to spend more than $15K on these extras alone.

                            Guy said to me (when he still had the APR Polo) that the single biggest problem to overcome is the width of the tyres. His car simply could not put enough of its available power down to be of any real use. (and he had all the other extras fitted.)

                            Go a Golf, it can take wider tyres and has a far superior suspension to start off with. Not to mention a 6 speed box and that 2.0l motor that is proving to be extremely tunable.
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                            • #29
                              I have read that 215 tyres can be squeezed on the right rim for the Polo. That would surely help would it not? Team that up with a torque sensing diff and that would be a massive improvement in traction one would think.
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                              • #30
                                i have 513kw.

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