LCA bushes, who's using what

[rgvlee]

So... I'm up for lca bush replacement. They've been done once before, the previous owner replaced them but replaced them with stock items

Who is running what

Seat equivalents

Superpro, couple of options i.e., standard, anti lift, high performance

Whiteline appear to do them as well? Two types a yellow and black presumably different hardness?
Whiteline W0605 Control arm - lower inner rear bushing
Whiteline W53196 Control arm - lower inner rear bushing

Any comments on hardness, ease of install (anything DIY would be good)

[noone]

Rears?

Seat (many of us are). A few urn the superpro for the angle, I try to avoid adding more nolathane and similar as my toy is rigid enough without adding more vibrations.

[seangti]

I have the Seat ones in the silver car after having the orginals replaced under warranty after 20,000. I think the Seat ones are a solid rubber, certainly much more robust than standard. I don't recall any increased NVH after them going in.

RE the install, I believe you'd need a press to get them in and perhaps the current ones out.

[sambb]

For the rear LCA bushes, decide if you want to run eccentric/offset bushes to get the anti-dive or caster increase benenfits. If you definitely want that, then you are locked into using steel cased bushes that need the VW tool at minimum to get them in. If geometry change at the LCA doesn't matter to you (while there are still steel and plastic cased centred bushes out there) then you could go for the whitelines that are not, and merely a tap in with a mallet. While cutting/pressing the old ones out took a bit of time, most of the effort was eaten up getting my steel cased LCA's in even with the VW tool - you can save that headache with the whitelines I'd reckon.
If you want to do the front LCA bushes at the same time you will definitely need a press of somesort to get them out. I got them to budge on a lathe and then hammered them out and then the superpro's were a hand push fit to replace.
I'm on the northern beaches if you want to have a squiz at mine before you go ahead.

[Stuwey]

SuperPro, offset here.

[DeanB]

Seat ones ... work fine

[kaanage]

Has anyone tried both the SEAT and the offset SuperPro's?

I'm very happy with the SEAT ones I got from Jimmy but I do wonder if I'm missing something

[Polo GTEye N9]

So... I'm up for lca bush replacement. They've been done once before, the previous owner replaced them but replaced them with stock items

Who is running what

Seat equivalents

Superpro, couple of options i.e., standard, anti lift, high performance

Whiteline appear to do them as well? Two types a yellow and black presumably different hardness?
Whiteline W0605 Control arm - lower inner rear bushing
Whiteline W53196 Control arm - lower inner rear bushing

Any comments on hardness, ease of install (anything DIY would be good)

I installed Polybush LCA front and rears from Bushes > Suspension > Polo 9N 02-09 > VW Polo > VW Specialists > PSI Tuning - VW Specialists
Very happy with them. Borrowed the VW Tool from Gav to do them. I also made up a tool using endless threaded rod to do the LCA fronts. Cheers Al

[Stuwey]

I'm very happy with the SEAT ones I got from Jimmy but I do wonder if I'm missing something

Much better turn-in with the slight increase of castor. I'd live to know the definitive result o the 'anti-lift' part of the equation...?

They're damn firm though.

[h100vw]

Superpro definitely prevents axle tramping. Have a look at my cheapy thread. Anthony has had both Seat Sport and Superpro in the Devil. I set the castor neutral on the devil and the Squib when I did them.

Gavin

[sambb]

Yeah axle tramp was atrocious on my stock front end bushes. Much improved with the superpro offsets set to anti-dive/anti-lift. I didn't find them much firmer to be honest but then I'm staying on stock springs which would dull any harshness down maybe. I noticed the dogbone poly bush upgrade but not the front end poly job to any great extent. It really sharpened up the steering feel and turn in response too.

[rgvlee]

If the superpro ones help reduce axle tramp and improve turn in, at the potential expense of making the ride a bit harder, then that to me is a fair trade off. Nothing worse than axle tramp when spinning up the first 3 gears.

I was just intending to do the rear lcas, but can't see any harm in doing the fronts as well at the same time.

[rgvlee]

For those playing the superpro card, what did you go for?

Road or high performance?

Offset or anti lift? Superpro say the anti lift can give additional caster as well. Wondering how that is done, would you mount one side/both sides slightly offset to achieve this?

http://www.superpro.com.au/superpro_parts/parts_images/3271IS.pdf

[Stuwey]

If you fit them with the eccentric pointing out, it pushes the lower balljoint forward, thus creating more castor.

It was a couple of years ago - don't remember which i've got.

[rgvlee]

I can see that working with the offset kit but would have thought if you do that with the anti lift kit you'd lose the anti lift benefit.
The offset kit is basically one standard and one offset bush, the anti lift is two offset bushes.

Would having the offset pointing down, as per the anti lift install instructions, create more castor?

I think I've answered my own q regarding the hardness, psi tuning only list the road ones so I'll get those.