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  • #16
    Originally posted by noone View Post
    Well, CEL came on today... have to scan it, but I'm guessing its the incorrect flow message.

    Cant figure why, but the cars that seem to have success with this are not running APR?

    Wonder if it would be easy for Guy to code it out...
    haha, it had to happen....
    Mine came on about 4 weeks ago
    Let me know if Guy contacts you.
    Polo 9n3 GTI

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    • #17
      I've been thinking this too.. surely Guy could code it out.
      I think Revo/Unitronic(?) code it out of theirs...
      Polo GTI MY2008
      Build Thread
      136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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      • #18
        Originally posted by noone View Post
        Well, CEL came on today...
        Same here. Could it be the 300 ohm SAI pump resistor from IE (the bare one) is inadequate, as suggested above? Should we try a 10W x 350 or 400 ohms (both on ebay) and see what happens.

        Whatya think?

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        • #19
          I am now running two resistors in series from Jaycar totalling about 650ohm from memories and haven't had the CEL return. I think the one specced by IE is just not enough by itself.

          '16 Octavia RS Wagon

          Past - '07 Polo GTI
          '08 RenaultSport Clio 197

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          • #20
            Given the code is for flow, I assume it's to do with that...

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            • #21
              Great tutorial!

              Any other vacuums which can be removed?

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              • #22
                Would disconnecting and capping the SAI, combi valve, n249 and n112 but leaving them in place be ok? I figure it would be the same as resistoring them out, they're just still there.. I've done this and the missers just threw a CEL this morning. I haven't had a chance to read it yet but I presume it should just be for the incorrect flow?
                Polo GTI MY2008
                Build Thread
                136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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                • #23
                  yeah, I've not found a solution on my car. Throws a cell.

                  If anyone has thrown this cell and can do a scan (Vag-com), ot would be valuable to send through to Guy (then they can investigate coding out).

                  I've been meaning to do this, but have recently changed to Win 7 64bit machine and it does not like me anymore...

                  The only reliable solution I know of is coding out, others are hit / miss depending on tune, etc.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by spraycanmansam View Post
                    Would disconnecting and capping the SAI, combi valve, n249 and n112 but leaving them in place be ok? I figure it would be the same as resistoring them out, they're just still there.. I've done this and the missers just threw a CEL this morning. I haven't had a chance to read it yet but I presume it should just be for the incorrect flow?
                    Did that on the S3 Sam, although I pulled the air pump off for better access to the oil filter. The 249 is out of circuit and the 112 is linked out. You can have a look at the weekend if you like.

                    Gavin
                    optimumcode@gmail.com | https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/for...i-;-79012.html | https://www.facebook.com/TTY-Euro-107982291992533

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                    • #25
                      When I changed my battery, it cleared the CEL...been a while, and no CEL haha
                      Polo 9n3 GTI

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Gav, i'll have a peek.

                        I was giving it a bit of thought.. how is the flow measured? The problem comes from 'insufficient flow' detected. What's detecting it?
                        I'm not great with electrical but I assume the pump draws a specific amount when pumping air through.. is it the electrical draw that's measured? I don't think that's how it works as I still have the pump pumping away and it still throws a code..

                        The only other thing I can think is that the ECU is hard programmed to expect more air on cold-starts.. in that case no combination of resistors will fix that. Saying that, others are fine, no CEL's. Bah!
                        Polo GTI MY2008
                        Build Thread
                        136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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                        • #27
                          Anyone had any trouble bleeding the air from the coolant once it's topped up? I've just finished the deleting the combi valve and I can't get any got air from my heater... seems like it hasn't bled properly. Is there a bleeding point other than the coolant ball?
                          Polo GTI MY2008
                          Build Thread
                          136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by spraycanmansam View Post
                            Anyone had any trouble bleeding the air from the coolant once it's topped up? I've just finished the deleting the combi valve and I can't get any got air from my heater... seems like it hasn't bled properly. Is there a bleeding point other than the coolant ball?
                            That Polo I just got was the same, You need to drive it a little I reckon. Then let it cool before topping up.

                            I just revved the engine in the garage and topped up an hour later but I think a drive would be better.

                            Gavin
                            optimumcode@gmail.com | https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/for...i-;-79012.html | https://www.facebook.com/TTY-Euro-107982291992533

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                            • #29
                              Yep all good now. Thanks Gav. I thought as much, but you never can trust these Germans...
                              Zere ist bleeda screwz vich are hidden in many locations und must be undone or zee hole zing go boom!

                              In keeping with this thread I noticed a few other lines..
                              There's a line that comes from the inlet manifold and splits off into a Y piece. One then goes to the brake booster. The other goes to the TIP with what looks like a one way valve. What's the point of this valve? Can I just run a hose straight to the brake booster and get rid of the Y piece and one way valve in the TIP. I'm trying to get rid of a couple of hard lines messing up the place.

                              They can be seen here --



                              Polo GTI MY2008
                              Build Thread
                              136.09kW and 305.28Nm torques, Dynapack Hub Dyno

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                              • #30
                                To maintain the brake booster vacuum when the diverter valve is in operation?

                                Random speculation...
                                Resident grumpy old fart
                                VW - Metallic Paint, Radial Tyres, Laminated Windscreen, Electric Windows, VW Alloy Wheels, Variable Geometry Exhaust Driven Supercharger, Direct Unit Fuel Injection, Adiabatic Ignition, MacPherson Struts front, Torsion Beam rear, Coil Springs, Hydraulic Dampers, Front Anti-Roll Bar, Disc Brakes, Bosch ECU, ABS

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