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Has anyone fitted a bigger Side Mount Intercooler (SMIC)?

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  • #46
    Originally posted by spraycanmansam View Post
    Has anyone pursued water to air intercoolers here? It would be easy enough to mount a small radiator in the front with the core taking up the original SMIC space. I'm going to make some cardboard cutouts of some cores and trial fit a few different designs.
    Yeah, I did some preliminary investigations as I liked the idea of shorter air piping for less lag plus the temps should be more stable as jasn78 stated (if not as ultimately cool in ideal circumstances).

    The main issues were
    1. Where does the air/water heat exchanger go (as noone asked)
    2. It needs a water pump with the proper flow rate and all the associated switching/wiring
    3. There's enough weight over the front end without hanging more water out there
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    • #47
      From what I can see the only difficult part is sorting out a core that will fit.

      1. The heat exchanger will easily fit where a front mount should.
      2. Water pump should be easy enough, switched to ignition.
      3. With the larger cores and heat exchangers I think this would be a valid concern, but with a smaller setup on our cars I don't think you'd even tell. Maybe, possibly, on the track.

      If I can mock up a core that will fit I'll post my findings.
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      • #48
        Post #9, 2nd pic is of my exact FMIC. Its actually a pic I took, lol.

        I have no noticable lag, excellent power retention (48 degree intake air temp on a hot day after 3 dyno runs) and all logs show boost is exactly what is requested, so no losses there either. The piping is maybe 5cm longer than before .....

        I'm not selling these (well not atm) either, so no interest there for me, merely stating a good FMIC is worth its weight in gold and without all the headaches (and costs) caused by upgrading the SMIC.

        and BTW, I picked up 7kw atw after fitting this FMIC, so its not just keeping power, but being better flowing adding power!

        EDIT: My core is also more than 150% bigger than the SMIC.
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        • #49
          Was that the frozen something brand / make?

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          • #50
            Sharkie's is air/air

            Frozenboost is air/water(/air)

            Originally posted by spraycanmansam View Post
            From what I can see the only difficult part is sorting out a core that will fit.
            What you refer to as the core is what I was thinking as the air/water heat exchanger (and what you were referring to as the heat exchanger, I had tagged in my mind as the intercooling radiator)
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            • #51
              What would the weight penalty be like for one of those setups though? ~6-7kgs out past the front axle extra?
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              • #52
                You can find these all over eBay..



                Full Kit - https://www.frozenboost.com/product_...oducts_id=1006

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