Unitronic Chipped

[RhysQ]

Have the same thought too but need to wait for few more months before putting it. Head says Unitronic but heart keep yelling APR

your head seems to be acting purely as a cost saving mechanism whilst your heart seems to have calculated all input factors and has realised the superior product for long-term personal enjoyment and peace of mind.

Cheers,
Rhys

[Bug_racer]

What makes you say that APR is superior ?
Have you seen any of Unitronics cars ?

your head seems to be acting purely as a cost saving mechanism whilst your heart seems to have calculated all input factors and has realised the superior product for long-term personal enjoyment and peace of mind.

Cheers,
Rhys

[VW GTI]

Uh oh... chip war.

Consider GIAC, Custom-Code, MTM and REVO too firdausasri.

[pologti18t]

Have you seen any of Unitronics cars ?

Surely thats the point in Australia

[RhysQ]

Surely thats the point in Australia

you beat me to it.

that's my point exactly, i've never heard of it.....and i'm sure most of us here haven't heard of it before either. i wouldn't put a large sum of cash into something i've never heard of, theres prob a reason we haven't heard of it.

as sam said, consider the others too. i would say the same with GIAC over Unitronics.

[firdausasri]

Thanks for the input guys, will decide soon. Will visit Revo dealer later.

[99gti]

It may come as a shock but I also do a lot of reading on vortex and have heard many good things about unitronic and they have many a dyno chart available online if you do a search through the Mk4 section especialy for the guys that go big turbo (BT). However, if it is a concern for you and doesn't gain your confidence then in 9/10 cases your probably better off going with what your heart says because having confidence in your car is not something you can realy put a $ figure on.

Do your homework and weigh up the options. Consider what you may also want to do further down the line and the flexibility of the product as well as the support available. Only you can reach the right conclusion for yourself.

[GT3]

..if it is a concern for you and doesn't gain your confidence then in 9/10 cases your probably better off going with what your heart says because having confidence in your car is not something you can realy put a $ figure on.

I think that's why many (not all) go for generic map tuners. there's a degree of certainty and simplication that these tuners provide that suits a big section of the market here. ...and for those with the interest and technical knowledge, high-output tuners are more liberating bc of the limitless tuning possibilites they provide. ..still, in Australia, with all the brand loyalty and preference for generic maps coming out of the USA, the euro tuners, eg REVO, still out-power them all

[Bug_racer]

I think that's why many (not all) go for generic map tuners. there's a degree of certainty and simplication that these tuners provide that suits a big section of the market here. ...and for those with the interest and technical knowledge, high-output tuners are more liberating bc of the limitless tuning possibilites they provide. ..still, in Australia, with all the brand loyalty and preference for generic maps coming out of the USA, the euro tuners, eg REVO, still out-power them all

Excuse me ?

I made 242 kw ATW's with Giac
Lucas makes 371
Nils S4 made 276
marcos made 246
Shane who has the same set-up as Lucas would also be making 250kw+

Now feel free to post up all the VAG revo cars that are making 200kw+ ATW's using revo software/tuning in Australia

[GT3]

Excuse me ?

With 'generic' maps I was referring more to simple stage one tunes.

[Bug_racer]

So your saying that as a stage 1 Revo makes the most power ?

[GT3]

So your saying that as a stage 1 Revo makes the most power ?

according to claimed outputs, for many models, it seems to be the case.

[RhysQ]

according to claimed outputs, for many models, it seems to be the case.

theres that key word again......"claimed". claimed and actual are completely different. you don't know the conditions and variables the claimed power were tested in. fuel used, air temp, sea level, dyno used....there are many many factors. and then keep in mind heatsoak affect so these claimed powers will last for maybe 2 solid runs/launches and then power diminishes significantly.

the last thing i want to do is start yet another brand argument but until the same type of cars (even down to same build date), on the same fuel from the same petrol station, on the same dyno, at approximately the same time (one after another) are tested with all these brand chips....i'm happy to say that they all have the same gains. all these people saying they got X amount in these different states on different days etc means absolute zip.

Cheers,
Rhys

[Ben_GTI]

I think most chips put out roughly the same in the stage one variants... But it comes down to the point, can you butt-dyno tell 5% difference? Can you tell if the power delivery is 3% smoother?

At the end of the day if you want to go even faster, lay off the pies and brake less lol.

[GT3]

all these people saying they got X amount in these different states on different days etc means absolute zip.

maybe you're right. although it seems too easy to simply accept they're all the same. ...if, for example, a tuner could genuinely offer 6-9 kw more with just stage one software, wouldn't that interest you? many ppl spend big $$$ for an extra 6-9 kw. getting that 6-9 kw with stage 1 software alone could represent a significant saving to someone who doesn't want to spend big $$ on exhaust, FMIC etc. ..just a different way of looking at it, ..dunno