Polo GTi Replacement

[gavs]

Polo GTi Replacement

Not to be rude, but so what? The dq200 is built by Borg Warner and developed by the same engineering team that developed the dsg in the Bugatti veyron which was developed off the foundation of the Porsche PDK used in the Le Mans winning 962 I think it was. Still doesn't mean it's not a piece of sh*t though!

My concern is this: if an 1100kg car that produces less than 200nm of torque can fry clutches in a dry clutch dsg, (granted this is primarily software related, so long as the mechatronics unit doesn't die) then what hope does a 147kw, 249nm hot hatch have...

[anglo_dude]

Alfa Giulietta? Bit bigger, bit slower, but a good looking hatch and has the TCT with either the 2.0 diesel or 1.4 turbo.

A decent alternative?

[Gambit]

Polo GTi Replacement

None taken, i just hope they get it right and so what ? tough luck VW. Like I've said if they engineer a mechatronics or clutch units that has a lifespan up to a threshold suitable for the mass market you will always get a proportion of those units failing no matter what the conditions of use.

[Rubbadub]

Veloster Turbo or Nissan Pulsar STS/SSS? Kia Rio Turbo coming up end of the year, possibly.

[iigx]

How about the new S Class ?

Weltpremiere der neuen S-Klasse in Hamburg - YouTube

(P.S. The video is a good laugh at the Germans idea of how to launch a car)

[LunchboxVRS]

How about the new S Class ?

Weltpremiere der neuen S-Klasse in Hamburg - YouTube

(P.S. The video is a good laugh at the Germans idea of how to launch a car)

Op stated drive away of $34k

Your talking about a car with a starting price of over $225k

[gavs]

Polo GTi Replacement

Veloster Turbo or Nissan Pulsar STS/SSS? Kia Rio Turbo coming up end of the year, possibly.

Veloster turbo is a pig to drive, like they built a good car and then took all the good stuff except the turbo out of it. Pulsar, have you seen one in the flesh? Barf! And the unless the new SSS is like this I wouldn't bother.

I think you're stuck Anth because really in the $34,000 drive away price range, you're pretty stuck for anything brand new especially if you want something with some decent performance.

[Hail22]

Veloster turbo is a pig to drive, like they built a good car and then took all the good stuff except the turbo out of it. Pulsar, have you seen one in the flesh? Barf! And the unless the new SSS is like this I wouldn't bother.

I think you're stuck Anth because really in the $34,000 drive away price range, you're pretty stuck for anything brand new especially if you want something with some decent performance.

You could get a good deal on a run out MKVI GTI...however it would be 39k with no options >.<

[Rubbadub]

Veloster turbo is a pig to drive, like they built a good car and then took all the good stuff except the turbo out of it. Pulsar, have you seen one in the flesh? Barf! And the unless the new SSS is like this I wouldn't bother.

I think you're stuck Anth because really in the $34,000 drive away price range, you're pretty stuck for anything brand new especially if you want something with some decent performance.

Well, I didn't say they were particularly good, but they are autos that aren't VW group 1.4 TSI's, perform OK, and are within the budget limit.

[Diesel_vert]

looking for something different

it has to be in the same/similar price bracket (as a VW Polo GTI)

brand new

dual clutch gearbox or auto

have 4 doors

I've limited it to cars with dual clutch gearboxes only, otherwise the list gets too long (or you need more qualifiers).


Alfa Romeo
Giulietta $31,350

Audi
A1 $32,250

Ford
Fiesta $18,990
Focus $22,590
Mondeo $35,490

Hyundai
Veloster $25,990

Mercedes-Benz
A180 $35,600

Renault
Clio (not due until 2014?)
Megane $27,490

Skoda
Fabia $21,290
Octavia $27,290
Roomster $24,790
Yeti $28,590

Volkswagen
Beetle $32,490
Golf $23,990
Jetta $28,990
Tiguan $35,990


Obviously, not all variants are fitted with dual clutch gearboxes - I leave that up to you to find out.

[iigx]

Op stated drive away of $34k

Your talking about a car with a starting price of over $225k

Sorry, was slightly off topic trying to highlight the video

[shauno]

Polo GTi Replacement

Ignoring the 'brand new' requirement - MkV R32

(Note: I may be very very biased)

[Gambit]

Polo GTi Replacement

I've limited it to cars with dual clutch gearboxes only, otherwise the list gets too long (or you need more qualifiers).


Alfa Romeo
Giulietta $31,350

Audi
A1 $32,250

Ford
Fiesta $18,990
Focus $22,590
Mondeo $35,490

Hyundai
Veloster $25,990

Mercedes-Benz
A180 $35,600

Renault
Clio (not due until 2014?)
Megane $27,490

Skoda
Fabia $21,290
Octavia $27,290
Roomster $24,790
Yeti $28,590

Volkswagen
Beetle $32,490
Golf $23,990
Jetta $28,990
Tiguan $35,990


Obviously, not all variants are fitted with dual clutch gearboxes - I leave that up to you to find out.

Excellent post and list man. Dual clutch is definitely the preferred path.

[gavs]

Excellent post and list man. Dual clutch is definitely the preferred path.

My pick is the Octavia RS

[Sword_Dude]

My pick is the Octavia RS

You know, everytime I look at it (particularly the new one) I think the same thing.