Wheel and lowering advice :)

[discodave83]

ive been in a forum members polo gti with the 35/55 springs

everyones opinion will differ on what is firm and not, but i thought they were fine

i actually think their softer than the suspension on my mates brand new golf gti !

ive bought the 25/40mm springs, getting them installed next week

it would be far from any scrub. I myself have 35 55's and decent poke, and I have to really really try to get any scrub

Any pictures of the car to see how it sits??

[MrDeathLad]

it would be far from any scrub. I myself have 35 55's and decent poke, and I have to really really try to get any scrub

im at stock (sports pack) height with 18x7.5 wrapped in 225/40 and i get light scrub. or would that be more to do with the softer suspension setup as well as a larger overall wheel diameter?

[MarcusAurelius]

im at stock (sports pack) height with 18x7.5 wrapped in 225/40 and i get light scrub. or would that be more to do with the softer suspension setup as well as a larger overall wheel diameter?

I currently have 18's too. I'd say it's a safe assumption the stock springs and wider rubbers don't help. I'm on 215-35 however

[bigfoot]

Yeah that looks just about right. What tyre size is that? And how much has th car been lowered??

H&R 25/40 and 225/35 x 18

and also important; does it scrub?

yea a little if you hit a bump at speed but nothing that i'm worried about. i believe it is the driver's side front tyre and touching the plastic inner guard.

any lower would be nuts

[nightphotographer]

and also important; does it scrub?

If you ain't scrubbin, you ain't dubbin.

I think he still needs to go 10-15mm lower at the front and 20+ on the rear - that's not low enough. I'm on coils and physically can't go lower on the rear without cutting the springs, and I don't scrub at all - that's on 17's, but the 9N has smaller arches any ways. I'm on 195 40's that helps.

[gavs]

Wheel and lowering advice

It always amazes me that people buy a performance model of a vehicle and render it completely useless of its intended purpose.... I'm not pointing fingers here I just, well, I don't get it. Buy the model that can get you around and dress it up, why buy a car with basically double the performance of the next lowest model and then hamstring the hell out of it. It's like pulling the turbo off to "neaten the engine bay".

Anyhow, just make sure that as you go lower you get rear wheel centering adapters because the 6R geometry will move the rear wheel forward in the wheel arch as you lower it and it looks rubbish. You can buy the mk4 golf ones from ECS Tuning and I'm pretty sure they will fit up

[Bflat]

It always amazes me that people buy a performance model of a vehicle and render it completely useless of its intended purpose.... I'm not pointing fingers here I just, well, I don't get it. Buy the model that can get you around and dress it up, why buy a car with basically double the performance of the next lowest model and then hamstring the hell out of it. It's like pulling the turbo off to "neaten the engine bay".

Anyhow, just make sure that as you go lower you get rear wheel centering adapters because the 6R geometry will move the rear wheel forward in the wheel arch as you lower it and it looks rubbish. You can buy the mk4 golf ones from ECS Tuning and I'm pretty sure they will fit up

Considered the possibility of people buying the GTI (or equal 'performance' model) due to it having the most options? It's not necessarily a priority for people to have the utmost power in their car which they may or may not choose to lower. 2cents.

[gavs]

Wheel and lowering advice

Yeah, maybe but all the features on the GTI are available on the other models (other than trendline) other than the Xenons. Even then, if one is able too, Jake here has done the swap for the xenons in his 77TSI. On top of that, the GTI is the most problem-plagued model as well.

Each to their own though and just because it's not what I would do, doesn't mean that some people can't make it look fantastic, as much as it goes against my own thinking

[nightphotographer]

Yeah I don't get what you means Gavs - I bought the GTI for it's styling over the stock 9N3- both exterior and interior. In my opinion there's 3 different kinds of Volkswagen enthusiast - the one who cares about performance, the one who cares about aesthetics and the one who wants a bit of both. I'm rolling low and my car goes alright. In my opinion I'm winning.

[VWplo]

Anyhow, just make sure that as you go lower you get rear wheel centering adapters because the 6R geometry will move the rear wheel forward in the wheel arch as you lower it and it looks rubbish. You can buy the mk4 golf ones from ECS Tuning and I'm pretty sure they will fit up

nice i think i should look into getting a set of those
are these the ones you you referring to?

Volkswagen Golf IV VR6 24v > Suspension > Centering Plates > ES#2515458 Wheel Centering Plates - 1J0598100

[gavs]

Wheel and lowering advice

Yeah I don't get what you means Gavs - I bought the GTI for it's styling over the stock 9N3- both exterior and interior. In my opinion there's 3 different kinds of Volkswagen enthusiast - the one who cares about performance, the one who cares about aesthetics and the one who wants a bit of both. I'm rolling low and my car goes alright. In my opinion I'm winning.

I'm not having a go but lowering a car that much actually decreases performance and on the 6R in my opinion looks worse because of how the rear wheel moves in the wheel arch. I understand that with the 9N models there was more/better stuff available on the GTI model and it has more punch but in the 6R like I said, drivetrain and xenons is it, everything else is direct replacement. I too like to think I fall into that category but for now my car has visually remained stock (not for long) and I have focused on performance.

I'm not trying to start an argument here guys, just expressing my opinion. I for one think that Bflat's 9n is quite possibly the best I have ever seen, and I actually see it quite often.

VWplo, not those ones, they are for the vr6 model I think. Try puttin in the details for a 2.0 Mk4 golf.

[VWplo]

thanks gavs.

i get what you are saying. why buy a performance vehical and then lower it to the point where you have to drive it slowly and cannot use all that power that you paid for. if i had a gti i would think the same thing

[kam]

can anyone confirm if when putting lowered springs into the car, the hub nuts need to be replaced as well ?

im getting some people saying i should, and others saying they didnt

[GTI JOE]

^^^^ haven't heard of this. I used the same stock set-up when my springs were installed and no problems thus far.

[discodave83]

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Personally I think modifying a car should be a healthy balance off tuning and styling. I've had cars that have been styled so much that they had to be tr
ailored, and I've had cars that have been tuned and look completely standard. And what I've learned is that it doesent take much to make a stock looking car look really nice. Subtle things like lowering and a smart set of aftermarket wheels are all it takes!
The 6r gti is pretty neat looking wee car standard, but a nice stance and some new wheels wouldn't go a miss