Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

[kevinctr]

Hi Gav

Nice info you have shared. In this case, could I simply just order a new ECU and get it flashed with the aftermarket tune and use it as the main ECU? I will just swap back the factory ECU during servicing time or whent he car needs to be brought back to the dealership for warranty issues?

[gavs]

Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

Hmmm, interesting (and expensive) consideration. Without actually knowing, I'd say that it would flag an alert if you used your spare ecu for servicing etc, but if your spare was tuned one.... Guy would be best to answer this...

[Guy_H]

Unfortunately with MED17, you can only have one ECU coded at one time (to the best of my knowledge) all the ECU's are tied together, so a spare ECU is not really an option.

The only way to avoid the dealership electronic detection these days is to have the ECU restored to the factory binary & flash counter number.

APR - we can do this but it needs to be manually done at an APR dealer. Bluefin, I do not know. I do understand their hand held controllers still increment the flash counter on ME9.

[seangti]

Also, I think Superchips in Australia is now handlded by the NZ agent.

That is correct. I beleive there's also a garage on queenslands gold coast who deal superchips, or can provide support.

[JonP01]

Hi Gav

Nice info you have shared. In this case, could I simply just order a new ECU and get it flashed with the aftermarket tune and use it as the main ECU? I will just swap back the factory ECU during servicing time or whent he car needs to be brought back to the dealership for warranty issues?

it wont work for several reasons. You are not the first person to ask this either. For example:


VW GTI Forum / VW Rabbit Forum / VW R32 Forum / VW Golf Forum - Golfmkv.com - View Single Post - Anyone regret a stage 1 ECU tune?

[kevinctr]

it wont work for several reasons. You are not the first person to ask this either. For example:


VW GTI Forum / VW Rabbit Forum / VW R32 Forum / VW Golf Forum - Golfmkv.com - View Single Post - Anyone regret a stage 1 ECU tune?

I know about issues on immobiliser and such. I am saying this because the staffs working in VW master agent are doing this on their own cars. Meaning they are running MTM tunes on their original ECU and when comes to warranty claims, they run a "spare" ECU on their cars. This was back in 2011 when I heard it.

[Gambit]

$399 for a Bluefin stage 1 , on SALE

Bluefin [BLUEFIN] - $399.20 : Tigersoft, Tuning - Coding - Styling

[Lucas_R]

Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

^ not for VW though

[Gambit]

Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

^ not for VW though

Bugger

[alexz]

599 according to that site still cheap.

[Bassik]

I know I'm writing in my own thread but how do these compete with APR etc?

$599 is way cheap and I would buy this if I could switch when I please?

[alexz]

i'm pretty sure thats what the hand controller is for/can do..

[Greg Roles]

Virtually all big name "internet" tuners buy "basic" tunes from one of three major tune wholesalers worldwide. This tune can be considered a "starting point" tune, and is generally around most "Stage 1" offerings. Each tuner may then decide to spend time and money to tweak it to get that last bit of power, response and to adjust for fuels and temps etc. Different tuners invest different amounts of time perfecting tunes, and nobody has the best of everything. APR is obviously strong in the VAG style cars as it is what they focus on. Herrods in Ford, Walkinshaw in HSV etc etc. Custom Code have invested in the DPF side of things, and they have the best tune there period - they invested the time. Viezu invested the time to be able to adjust the DSG quite obviously via the engine ECU. Every brand has its unique strengths.

Real time dyno tuners like Parso Rex tune a base file in front of you, and perfect it on the dyno. They don't need to buy a wholesale tune, but they sure can, and just because someone has a dyno doesn't mean they aren't flogging one from Europe off a server. Other companies like Viezu tune your own base file - over the internet - and have a technician tweak your base file in real time, and at times this needs local dyno time as well to perfect. If it was just off a server we wouldn't wait a few UK hours for it!!! The end result is the same, the files are basically tweaked the same ways - more or less - but the WAY it is done differs.

All that said there are not really any real tuning secrets - of course everyone has their points of difference - APR with the stalk, Bluefin UK at the price, GIAC with the numbers, Viezu with Insurance and free retweaks etc etc- we all basically offer the same result +/- 5% at the pointy end. But the numbers don't come for free, a mild tune will be pushing stockish boost, an aggressive tune is often way up in the boost range, sometimes scarily so. Most tunes stick to a safe upper end, and they will all have similar numbers despite all the wars we often have. Companies all copy each other anyhow, I know various HQ's sample each others tunes, encrypted or not, and know for a fact some of the Viezu tunes have been nicked here in Australia. Hilariously some of these "borrowers" bag the hell out of Viezu publicly.

If you are on a budget and want bang for buck - buy a UK Bluefin, no question. It may be a milder tune though, so worth checking.

If you want to get amongst the pointy end, you will be spending a grand or so, and there are several offerings. The differences narrow.

At the top of the market you get very clever tunes, with clever features, and usually great results, but again, nobody has the best of everything. I represent one brand, know where they are incredibly strong, and where they aren't. I have referred queries to all the tuning brands, depending on circumstances, from local dyno tuners like BPS and Parso, to Bluefin, DNA, Custom Code, GIAC even APR shock horror!

Nobody has the best of everything. We all have certain features, and it's THAT which you should shop on.

Local support, runs on the board, and a real, live person ( the actual tune technician preferably ) to assist if anything goes wrong is in my opinion the biggest thing. Plenty of stories of UK supplied handheld programmer cars being bricks for a week or two whilst they try and sort it out. But then ALL tuners have their problems, if you tune enough cars, it's a matter of time. No brand is spared that.

Just my very humble opinion, and apologies for the huge post.

[Orrgazmo1986]

Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

^very well said.

[gavs]

Bluefin Superchip Tunes for Polo GTi

Bassik, specifically relating to the bluefin tune, for what you pay, if you got 5-10% increase in power an torque then that's a bloody good return. When you are pushing more than that however, save your dollars for GIAC, Viezu, APR or Revo. This is a phenomenally difficult engine to tune correctly as there a multitude of mechanical hurdles in this engine to overcome and allow for. I won't go into specifics here but feel free to shoot me a pm about it