DNA Tuning Polo upgrades available

[kaanage]

I guess they can try using the same setting as for the Golf MkVI 118kW twin charge since the unit only has to be able to establish communications with the ECU (then it's up to the tuning company to interpret/modify the map).

[gavs]

I think you're probably right, the engine is the same as the 118TSI motor in the Golf anyway, just with a bit more oomph

[gavs]

This is from another thred in the Tuning section of the site...

As per my other thread in the sponsor section requesting test cars for our SRS-II unit; the new range of the 1.4TSI's are now supported in the latest SRS-II firmware - but not the 77 TSI as that is a different ECU altogether. I carry many of these in stock and would be keen to check compatibility with the GTI's

[GTI JOE]

I assume this SRS-II unit allows you to program different ECU settings on your car? Using the unit itself and a PC?

[gavs]

Not 100% sure but I believe that yes, that is the basic premise behind it...

[kaanage]

1. Set the car/ecu for the unit with it connected via usb to a pc using the Alientech rebranded software.
2. Connect the unit to the ODB port on the car and download the stock ECU map
3. Connect the unit back to the PC and download the stock map and then email this to the tuning company
4. Receive back the new map(s) from the tuning company via email
5. Load the maps (up to 3) that you want to use with your car via USB from the PC (you may need to remove the stock map if you get more than 2 remaps).
6. Connect the unit to the ODB port on the car, choose the map you want to run and flash the ECU.

[gavs]

Hmmm, seems a bit of a hastle for something that might get done once or twice.... Might just look at the standard map with 155kw and 300Nm

[kaanage]

Once this is done, you can just switch between maps by repeating step 6.
This lets you revert fully to stock if you want for servicing.

It's really not that hard - I've just listed out the steps but the most time is spent waiting for the tuning company to email back the new maps.

Without a unit like this, the tuner (John in this case) will have done steps 1-5 at some stage (with Vinny's car for the 6R Polo TSi) to get the maps on to a loader (or probably does it directly to/from PC with the right cables/software) and does step 6 for you without having to redo the prelims.

[GTI JOE]

I have downloaded the manual from DNA Tuning, it seems like a useful tool in as far as it can get your original stock ECU setup back, just in case you need warranty work. Doesn't seem that complicated either.

[DNA Tuning]

Sorry to bring up an old thread; can't believe I completely missed this one. If anyone has more questions regarding the upgrades please feel free to post them here and I will answer as best as I can.

I am considering increasing the number of free dyno run slots; I am in need of some stock vehicles for the dyno run whereby the upgrade will be performed on the same day to do an after run later in the day. Trying to get together roughly 20 vehicles for this dyno day. Please enquire now and I'll do my best to offer you a free dyno run!

[Buller_Scott]

I have downloaded the manual from DNA Tuning, it seems like a useful tool in as far as it can get your original stock ECU setup back, just in case you need warranty work. Doesn't seem that complicated either.

want to see how it works? im just 20 mins up the road from you. i can drop by sometime and show you the "sixth step" - piss easy.

as greg (kaanage) said - throughout steps 1-6, the longest time that any one step takes is the ~hour or so for step 4, waiting for your tuner to write your "power" map based on your "stock" map that you emailed to them in the first place.

so yeah, GTI JOE (and anyone in melbourne who wants to see what im talking about for themselves), let me know if you want to see what your product will actually look / install like.

[GTI JOE]

Thanks for the offer Scott, I"ll keep that in mind buddy. I am leaning towards this set-up with DNA as I have a feeling that APR is going to be priced a lot higher. How is your tune going? any issues? how far up the road? PM me if you want.

[sVWatt]

Scott - how is the fuel consumption post upgrade? Any better / worse ?

[Mike]

Sorry to bring up an old thread; can't believe I completely missed this one. If anyone has more questions regarding the upgrades please feel free to post them here and I will answer as best as I can.

I am considering increasing the number of free dyno run slots; I am in need of some stock vehicles for the dyno run whereby the upgrade will be performed on the same day to do an after run later in the day. Trying to get together roughly 20 vehicles for this dyno day. Please enquire now and I'll do my best to offer you a free dyno run!

Hey John, i'm still keen to get the upgrade done.
Just waiting on my car, should be about 3-4 weeks away.
I'd be very keen to get before and after dyno runs
My main concern is warranty voiding, and wanted to know if my VW dealer could stumble upon this and void my warranty?
Regards,
-Mike

[Buller_Scott]

Thanks for the offer Scott, I"ll keep that in mind buddy. I am leaning towards this set-up with DNA as I have a feeling that APR is going to be priced a lot higher. How is your tune going? any issues? how far up the road? PM me if you want.

i was going to pm you, but im replying to three posts here at the same time, so oh well, haha.

my tune isnt a DNA tune per se, it's a chipped uk/viezu tune. same thing, really (even the handsets are the same - EXACTLY the same, although the dna one has a dna fascia on it, and the chipped uk one... well, you know.). EXACTLY the same install process.

as for my tune - i thrash the crap out of my car all the time, ALL the time, and have done for two years. if you look at julian edgar's thread, he has the same engine as mine, but with exhaust mod and a BIG custom intake, and he got CUSTOM rolling road tuned, and dyno'd 91fwkw. my tune alone, with just the SEAT (slightly larger diameter) intake, got 89.5fwkw, so it's not a bad tune at all imo. two years (50,000kms) of thrashing (abusing, once warm) my car on that map (apart from a couple of months at the start when i thought it was worse for fuel economy than stock map), and not one. single. problem. ever. i'd like to say that customer support has been excellent, but seriously, since the day i installed the tunes, i have never ever gone back to viezu for anything - the tunes are that good, i've never had to.

DNA will be the same (although i know from a few people that John has fuggin awesome customer service). ask gti_dave to see his octavia's stage two dyno plot - i've said it once and i'll say it again, that curve looks like it was drawn freehand by da vinci. AWESOME.

it doesnt matter to me if you dont have your car yet. i can come along to introduce myself sometime, show you the handset etc etc and change maps right infront of you (or if you want, we can go for a stock vs fun map back to back). i wont violate you i promise haha

Scott - how is the fuel consumption post upgrade? Any better / worse ?

hey mate, fuel consumption post upgrade is definitely better (i dont have a multi function display, so i usually just do non-documented "how many clicks on this next quarter of a tank" comparisons, but...

the awesome thing about the handset that DNA uses is that you can literally switch 20 times a day if you wanted to. even WITHOUT taking down km readings, it's pretty obvious that the tune improves fuel economy- there is a lot of low down torque such that you only need to massage (less than 50% travel) the throttle in order to hop-to in traffic.

for some reason, a year and a half ago, i told myself "nope, im having too much fun on the fun map - im going to go back to stock for awesome fuel economy". with my daily commute and the bi-weekly grocery shop etc etc, i simply found myself filling up more often on stock map than on fun map. add to that the fact that when you WANT to have fun, it's much more fun on fun map than on stock, and it only took me a couple of months to realise that fun map is fun AND more economical.

Hey John, i'm still keen to get the upgrade done.

My main concern is warranty voiding, and wanted to know if my VW dealer could stumble upon this and void my warranty?
Regards,
-Mike

do a search on this site for something like "remap and warranty" or "tuning and warranty", and have a read (lots of posts on the subject), then, decide for yourself how you want to proceed.

all of the discussion seems to point to the only hard and fast rule being "if a modification is responsible for the engine blowing up, then you're outta luck". otherwise, the discussion seems to go back and forth between "it's up to YOU to prove that your mod didnt cause the engine failure" and "VWA has to prove to YOU that it's YOUR mod that caused the failure". much of a muchness, really.

to be honest, mike, i'd do what i did, and go along to your dealer and have a chat with them. i told my dealer that i was going to get chipped, plus maybe some exhaust work and maybe an intake etc etc and how would that fare? dealer pretty much said that if it was blatantly obvious that i'd done something horrendous to ufck up the internals then yes, i'd be on my own, but otherwise a remap wouldnt foreseeably void the usual kind of warranty work / early life failure work that they usually see.

it was also amusing, talking to him - he lit right up when i told him i planned to get mapped, telling me that no one tells them these things when they go in for service, and he'd love to get the diagnostic tools onto a mapped car and have a look-see, which they dont really ever get to do