DNA Tuning Polo upgrades available

[Guy_H]

Personally in AWD form, Torque is what you should be looking at, but hey, this is a Golf R thread in a Polo forum????

[Candyman]

Personally, in any vehicle, absolute peak numbers are irrelevant

[Lucas_R]

Actually as far as i understand, the S3 was the only APR car there & had an intake / pump / stage 1 software on board made 206kw (and more torque than your car?) and it had NO intercooler or NO exhaust mods. I also understand your car had an exhaust & Intake?

Let us know a full list of what all please (as you state). I understand you are happy with your car, but you are stretching the truth a bit here.

Hi Guy - yes as i mentioned above, the APR'ed Audi S3 made 206kw and 371nm. So 2.4kw and 16nm more than my car. Given the difference in price paid by him VS me, its not exactly good bank for buck in my opinion.

Im certainly not trying to start a tuning war (this is a DNA tuning thread after all so i was just sharing my results and feedback on DNA), but i did speak to the owner of the S3 later in the day and he told me his car had the following mods.

Audi S3:
- APR tune (dont know for certain if his tune was stage 1 or stage 1+ as he said the fuel pump was only fitted a few days prior)
- APR HPFP upgrade
- VW Racing intake
- As you mentioned - the owner told me that his exhaust was untouched as well as intercooler etc.

Thats approx $3,200 worth of mods. (i extimated the price of the intake at $800 as i could not find it.)

My Car:
- DNA tune
- Scorpion downpipe (rear section of exhaust is stock)
- VW Racing intake
- my intercooler / fuel pump etc is all stock.

Thats $2,200 worth of mods.


Im not stretching the truth at all Guy. Above are the facts. Im not sure if there were any other APR Golf R's or Audi S3's there on the day. Some people turn up, dont interact, run their car and then leave. Some people leave immediately after their dyno run as they are not happy - i have no idea what tune a particualar silver S3 had, but the owner wasnt at all happy and left immediately after his run. I believe there was an APR tuned GTI but im not 100% on that. I was also hoping for some Viezu tuned cars to come along - given all the "WOW, AMAZING, SOOO FAST" hype over the past few months, but there were none. Plenty of GIAC stage 1 and 2 (pretty average results), a few Bluefin, and several Recode custom tuned cars.

There is a thread here of some of the results if your interested >> The Official VWGolf.Net Dyno Power Chart

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Personally in AWD form, Torque is what you should be looking at, but hey, this is a Golf R thread in a Polo forum????

True - you've got me there. But im just trying to share my experience with other potential DNA customers.

Personally, in any vehicle, absolute peak numbers are irrelevant

True - and im not trying or wanting to be a dyno hero. But i knew the tune was strong when i had a run with a collegue who has another manual Golf R with the newly upgraded v3.1 APR software + Carbonio intake, and we stayed neck and neck (this was before i fitted the down pipe).

And it would seem so many people only seem to relate to seeing a dyno sheet, i decided to take the car to the dyno day in Sydney to test the DNA tune out with a host of other tuned Golf R's on the day, and it turns out that the results were good.

Im not trying to say one tune brand is better than another, just that DNA offers a strong tune for a good price and that people should consider them when looking at their tuning options.

[Guy_H]

although he has spent double what i have on mods.

Sorry, but $3200 is what he spent (its a stage 1 tune too BTW) - if you spent $2200, its not "double". More HP, More Torque, no where near as lean as your tune and $1000 extra spent. It's your call if you think it's better value or not.

[Lucas_R]

Sorry, but $3200 is what he spent (its a stage 1 tune too BTW) - if you spent $2200, its not "double". More HP, More Torque, no where near as lean as your tune and $1000 extra spent. It's your call if you think it's better value or not.

So after all the trouble i went to in my previous post to explain everything, this is all you have to say?

APR tune = $1,450
APR HPFP = $1,350
VW Racing intake = circa $800 (probably more that this as thats what they were when Rennenhaus was getting them). They are listed as $574 in the USA, so no doubt my estimate of $800 here in Aust is conservative.
= $3,600 (prices taken off the APR website today).

The 2kw and 16nm i agree is more, but its such a small difference you'd never feel it. I wish the owner of the S3 would post up his dyno sheet so we could see the results as well as the A/F ratios. How do you know the S3's tune isnt as lean as my car when he hasnt posted his dyno results?

My A/F ratios may perhaps be a little lean below 4,000rpm, but this can be rectified by a revised tune from DNA. Don't forget ive got a stage 1 tune but stage 2 parts, so this may have something to do with it.

[Guy_H]

Hi Lucas, I'm sorry, your pricing is still wrong - Tune $1150 (purchased on sale), pump $1050 exchange (not on sale), intake $975 (not on sale) = $3175 (no sorry, not $3600 or $4400 as you first suggested)- the owner is MACAA on this forum, you can check with him. Anyway to take it off this thread & leave this to the Polo owners we can do another thread. Can you host a dyno picture? (let me know via PM & I'll email you the scan).

[gadinbot]

if you do take this outside can you post a link to the new thread so we can all read along

[Lucas_R]

Hi Lucas, I'm sorry, your pricing is still wrong - Tune $1150 (purchased on sale), pump $1050 exchange (not on sale), intake $975 (not on sale) = $3175 (no sorry, not $3600 or $4400 as you first suggested)- the owner is MACAA on this forum, you can check with him. Anyway to take it off this thread & leave this to the Polo owners we can do another thread. Can you host a dyno picture? (let me know via PM & I'll email you the scan).

As discussed via PM, pricing and some details in my previous posts have been amended.

if you do take this outside can you post a link to the new thread so we can all read along

LOL. Its all good and we have both clarified our points of view via PM.

[gavs]

Sorry guys but if you're going to start a slinging match about tunes, please refrain from the Polo section and stick to muddying up the tuning section of the forum where people can waste their days reading about how big one companies c..... sorry, tune is bigger than anothers.

[Lucas_R]

Sorry guys but if you're going to start a slinging match about tunes, please refrain from the Polo section and stick to muddying up the tuning section of the forum where people can waste their days reading about how big one companies c..... sorry, tune is bigger than anothers.

Apologies to Gavs and all the rest of the Polo crew. I just wanted to share my experience with DNA Tuning with all of you. I regret that something i mentioned regarding the APR car was incorrect and upset Guy from APR and it quickly went off topic from there.

I certainly didn't want to start a tuning war or a "mines better than yours" type thread.

Once again, apologies. Back to you........

[gavs]

No worries Lucas, not your fault in turned into what it did........ I understand your reasons for posting what you did and I along with other polo owners appreciate your feedback.