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  • 2018 Polo GTI DSG Only

    2018 Volkswagen Polo GTI won’t have a manual gearbox in Australia

    Sad to see this. I for one was going to buy this in August when it was released (Currently have a 2015 GTI Manual) but not if its DSG only.

    Strange decision by VW considering that you can get a manual in all the other 2018 Polo versions.

  • #2
    An utterly boneheaded decision from VW Aus. Especially when they admit 30% of Polo GTI sales were manuals (not sure on timeframe).

    If they were going to offer a manual in any Polo surely, surely it is the GTI?
    2018 Golf GTI, Manual - gone.
    2017 Golf 110tsi Trendline, manual (gone - gladly)
    2007 Golf GTI, Manual, (gone - sadly)
    1978 Golf GLS; 1972 Superbug, (memories)

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    • #3
      Interesting how the worm has turned. The 9N3 Polo GTI was manual only.
      2001 Bora 4 Motion Sport now used by number two son
      2011 Skoda Octavia Scout now with Underground Performance tune
      2010 Jetta 125 tdi dsg for the misses - Impressed
      2006 Polo GTI - Enhanced by some of Gav's magic - Absolutely loving it

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      • #4
        Not the 1st time vw have shot themselves in the foot and unfortunately won't be the last either

        Personally i would go the dsg as i do like the dsg experience even in a sports car but i know lots like to manual shift as well
        Once upon a time owned/drove a 5 speed and a 6 speed manual car and drove a 13 speed truck i don't like slushboxs or cvt but the dsg hits the spot for me
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        • #5
          Some indication of the world wide demand pattern. DSG has so many advantages, can be an "auto" for those that can't drive a manual plus can be a paddle shifting "manual" for those that do. In the race cars I work on only the "vintage" cars have stick shifts, all the modern ones have paddles. Look at the data and its easy to see how much advantage the lightning fast paddle shifts result in.

          Cheers
          Gary
          Golf Mk7.5 R, Volvo S60 Polestar, Skyline R32GTST

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          • #6
            At least the older 6-speed DSG used should be an improvement in reliability despite the additional maintenance required.

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            • #7
              I hate the DSG in my 2013 GTI especially at low speed when the aircon is on.

              An automatic will never be able to reliably predict what you want to do at any given moment so for drivers like me, it’s either upshifting or downshifting too soon or too late. Doesn’t matter if you use sport mode. And I I usually use manual mode, but it’s still an auto underneath and it’s clutch management is just not what I personally want.

              So glad to be trading up to my wife’s 2015 GTI manual and she’s getting a bigger car: 2018 Golf GTI Original manual.


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              Ben

              2015 Polo GTI & 2019 Golf R

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              • #8
                Interestingly the dealership I've been talking to in anticipation of the GTI coming out later this year has told me there has not been an official internal change of view from head office in regards to the manual coming out after the local launch later this year.

                Hopefully he's not telling me porkies but I have pre-ordered a manual Polo GTI since this article based on his advice!

                Can't wait to leave my DSG behind!
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by devoutdubber View Post
                  Interestingly the dealership I've been talking to in anticipation of the GTI coming out later this year has told me there has not been an official internal change of view from head office in regards to the manual coming out after the local launch later this year.

                  Hopefully he's not telling me porkies but I have pre-ordered a manual Polo GTI since this article based on his advice!

                  Can't wait to leave my DSG behind!
                  I can't see why people can't order one providing there will be none to test drive.

                  Fingers crossed

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                  • #10
                    Well I certainly hope so, will definitely buy a manual GTI if it comes to Australia.

                    Had a bit of a rant here: http://www.vwwatercooled.com/forums/...ml#post1259516

                    Really dislike a DSG, regardless of how advanced technologically or fast it is around a race track, its boring and not for me.
                    Last edited by Sharkie; 19-03-2018, 01:57 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Sharkie View Post
                      its boring and not for me.
                      Personally I like the paddle shifting, no need to move hands from the steering wheel or unbrace the left leg to punch the clutch. No throttle lift shifts which keeps the turbo spooled up, for much faster acceleration if that's what's required or better fuel economy if that's the target. I just don't see what's not to like about DSG.

                      Maybe it's the leaving it in D that makes it boring?

                      Cheers
                      Gary
                      Golf Mk7.5 R, Volvo S60 Polestar, Skyline R32GTST

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                      • #12
                        I dont find DSG's boring by any means but they simply aren't reliable enough plus the low speed ride of a DSG box is just not acceptable to me.

                        Id buy it if it was a traditional slush box in behind it like what Audi is starting to put behind the high end models now.

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                        • #13
                          I don't find my DSG boring either, I love the fast shifts when hammering it but for me it's still an auto and thus it's the difference between steering and driving.
                          Mk7.5 Golf R Grid Manual, 273Kw & 500Nm atw on 🌽
                          Galano Stage 2 E85 flex tune, IE IC, IE DP, NPC SMF Clutch, HPFP, LPFP, injectors, Forge inlet pipe, BMS turbo inlet, Superpro FSB/RSB, 034 dogbone mount inserts, T3 4000 slotted rotors, ATE ceramic pads

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sydneykid View Post
                            Personally I like the paddle shifting, no need to move hands from the steering wheel or unbrace the left leg to punch the clutch. No throttle lift shifts which keeps the turbo spooled up, for much faster acceleration if that's what's required or better fuel economy if that's the target. I just don't see what's not to like about DSG.

                            Maybe it's the leaving it in D that makes it boring?

                            Cheers
                            Gary
                            The reviews I’ve seen report 0.1s difference in acceleration between manual and DSG.


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                            2015 Polo GTI & 2019 Golf R

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BenT View Post
                              The reviews I’ve seen report 0.1s difference in acceleration between manual and DSG.
                              all those computer-controlled immediate shifts deliver an identical performance claim due to a 70Nm deficit
                              Add back the 70 nm to a DSG GTi and the manual GTi won't see which way it went.

                              Cheers
                              Gary
                              Golf Mk7.5 R, Volvo S60 Polestar, Skyline R32GTST

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